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About this page. The original text of 《庄子口义》 Vol. 2 (Zangwai Daoshu 藏外道書, 10 volumes) is shown in Classical Chinese as transmitted in the Godners/DaoZang edition. An English interpretation of the 62 passages on this page accompanies it: select a passage or press “Interpretation” to show it. All texts in English

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非牛者三年之后未尝见全牛也释刀舍其刀也舍刀而对谓其技自学道得之而后至于技非徒技也三年之后未见全牛者言牛之一身其可解处全不容力可一目而见也 方今之时臣以神遇而不以目视官知止而神欲行依后未见全牛者言牛之一身其可解处全不容力可一目而见也 方今之时臣以神遇而不以目视官知止而神欲行依乎天理批大郄导大窾因其固然技经肯綮之未尝而况大軱乎 以神遇而不以目视者言心与之防也遇防也官耳目鼻口也官知止者言凝然而立之时耳目皆无所见闻也耳目之所知者皆止而不言之神自行谓自然而然也天理者牛身天然之腠理也依者依其自然之腠理而解之大郄骨肉交际之处也批击也窾空也骨节之间自有大空缺处也导者顺而解之也骨肉之交际骨节之空窾皆固然者我但因而解之我之为技其用刀也皆未尝经涉其肯綮之间綮音顷肯綮者骨肉相着处也肯綮处且不用刀况大軱乎軱音孤大骨也骨肉之交际骨节之空窾皆固然者我但因而解之我之为技其用刀也皆未尝经涉其肯綮之间綮音顷肯綮者骨肉相着处也肯綮处且不用刀况大軱乎軱音孤大骨也 良庖岁更刀割也族庖月更刀折也今臣之刀十九年矣所解数千牛矣而刀刃若新发于硎
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Plain-language reading

“I am no longer a novice at butchering an ox. After three years, I no longer see the ox as a whole.”

He sets down the knife and says his craft was first understood through cultivation of the Way and only later applied to a skill—not ordinary workmanship. “After three years, no longer seeing the whole ox” means that at a glance he can see where on the ox the blade may go and where no force is needed at all.

“By now I meet it with spirit and no longer stare with the eyes; sense and knowing stop, and spirit moves on its own.”

The point of “no longer seeing the whole ox” is the same: wherever the ox should be parted, he sees it without strain, in one glance.

“I follow the natural grain, open at the gaps between the major joints, enter through the large openings, and part it along its inherent structure.”

He does not force the places where sinew, channels, tendons, and membranes run tight—still less the large bones.

“Meeting with spirit, not looking with the eyes”: the heart is on guard and in attunement (“yu” means to ward and to meet). Guan here means the ears, eyes, nose, and mouth; guan zhi zhi means that when he stands collected in spirit, ears and eyes seem to hear and see nothing—all that the sense organs could report is stilled, and shen (spirit) moves by itself, that is, spontaneously. Tianli is the ox’s natural grain. Yi is to part along that natural grain. Da xi are the places where flesh and bone meet; pi is to strike or cut. Da kuan are the large voids; kuan means empty—the gaps between joints are naturally wide. Dao is to slide the knife through those voids and part. Where flesh and bone meet and where the joints open are structures that are already so; he only parts along them. In this craft he never touches the kenqing (places where flesh clings tight to bone—pronounced “qing”); if he does not use the blade even at kenqing, how much less on da gu (large bones—pronounced “gu”)?

(The closing lines repeat the latter half of the previous paragraph; the meaning is the same: skill so refined that the knife only follows natural voids, never the tight junctions of sinew and bone, and never hacks at large bones.)

良庖庖之善者也族庖众人之为庖者也劣者也庖之劣者则其刀一月一更以其斫大骨而有损刀或折也庖之善者一岁一更刀以其用刀犹于肯綮之间或有割切故其刀亦易损也今我之刀用之十九年矣解牛虽多而其刃皆若新磨然言其无所损也硎砥石也 彼节者有间而刀刃者无厚以无厚入有间恢恢乎其于游刃必有余地矣是以十九年而刀刃若新发于硎彼节者有间新磨然言其无所损也硎砥石也 彼节者有间而刀刃者无厚以无厚入有间恢恢乎其于游刃必有余地矣是以十九年而刀刃若新发于硎彼节者有间言牛之骨节自有间缝处我之刀又甚薄以甚薄之刀随其间缝而解之可以游刃于其间恢恢有余地者言其无滞碍也此意盖言世事之难易皆有自然之理我但顺而行之无所撄拂其心泰然故物皆不能伤其生此所以为养生之法也 虽然每至于族吾见其难为怵然为戒视为止行为迟动刀甚微謋然已解如土委地提刀而立为之四顾为之踌躇泰然故物皆不能伤其生此所以为养生之法也 虽然每至于族吾见其难为怵然为戒视为止行为迟动刀甚微謋然已解如土委地提刀而立为之四顾为之踌躇满志善刀而藏之文惠君曰善哉吾闻庖丁之言得养生焉
Interpretation

Zhuangzi Kouyi · Cook Ding Butchers an Ox (Excerpt from the Oral Commentary)

Skilled Butchers and Ordinary Butchers

A skilled cook is the master of the kitchen; an ordinary cook is the sort who handles everyday cooking and belongs to a lower level of skill. A poor cook often needs a new knife every month, because chopping heavy bone wears the blade down and can even break it. A good cook changes knives once a year, because he cuts only between flesh and sinew; he still slices here and there, so the edge still wears, but more slowly. My knife has been in use for nineteen years. I have butchered many oxen, yet the edge looks as if it had just been honed on a grindstone—almost no wear at all. Xing means a whetstone or grindstone.

Entering the Gaps with What Has No Thickness

Between the joints of an ox there are naturally spaces, while the blade is extremely thin. Using an edge that has no thickness, you enter where there is space; the knife glides through, and the room is ample—more than enough. That is why, after nineteen years, the blade still seems freshly sharpened.

The oral commentary adds: whether affairs are hard or easy, each has its own natural pattern. If a person simply follows that pattern and does not force against it, the mind stays at ease; outer things cannot harm your vital spring. That is the meaning of yangsheng—nurturing life.

The Tough Spots and the “Huo” Sound

Even so, whenever I come to a tangle of tendon and bone—a place that is especially awkward to cut—I grow alert, fix my gaze, slow my hand, and move the knife with the utmost lightness. Then there is only a soft “huo,” and the flesh comes away, as if a clod of earth had dropped to the ground. I stand there with the knife raised, look around, feel satisfied and secure, wipe the blade clean, and put it away.

Lord Wenhui

Lord Wenhui said: Well said! After hearing Cook Ding’s words, I understand how to nurture life.

此虽然一转甚有意味盖言人之处世岂得皆为顺境亦有逆境当前之时又当委曲顺以处之人行顺境甚易到境逆处多是手脚忙乱自至丧失安有不动其心者乎所以添此一转族聚也言牛身筋骨聚防之地也我之解牛虽曰目无全牛矣虽用刀皆在于大郄大窾之间而至于筋骨盘结处亦见其难遂把作个难事做怵然者变动之意也戒者加儆戒也视为止者言以目视之未免少停止而后迟迟焉行其刀此但言加子细之意也我既加意子细为之则其动刀也甚微言轻轻然亦不敢甚着力也謋音慝解音蟹謋忽然之意解散也言其用力甚轻而其骨肉忽然自已解散如土之委地然言其多而易也解牛既了则提起其刀而立其动刀也甚微言轻轻然亦不敢甚着力也謋音慝解音蟹謋忽然之意解散也言其用力甚轻而其骨肉忽然自已解散如土之委地然言其多而易也解牛既了则提起其刀而立从容四顾踌躇者从容也即自得意也满志者如意也非曰其志自满也言此乃满我之意也何以如意不用力而解牛虽解而刀无伤所以如意也善刀者言好好收拾其刀而藏之也此意盖喻人处逆境自能顺以应之不动其心事过而化其身安于无为之中一似全无事时也为善无近名以下正说养生之方庖丁一段乃其譬喻到此末后遂轻轻结以得养生焉四字便是文势操纵省力处须子细看
Interpretation

This passage explains the meaning of “Cook Ding Cuts the Ox” in Zhuangzi’s “Nurturing Life” chapter, along the following lines.

Dealing with the world: smooth and rough times

Life cannot be all smooth going; there will also be hard stretches. When adversity comes, one should meet it with yielding and adaptation, not by pushing against it head-on. In good times people are often quite at ease; in adversity they easily grow flustered and even lose the composure and measure they had before—those who can truly “not disturb the heart-mind” are few. So the author here turns the discussion and uses cutting up an ox as a comparison.

“Clustered sinews” and the hard places

“Clustered sinews” (zu ju) means spots on the ox where sinews and bones knot and gather—the very places where the knife must be most careful. Though Cook Ding had already reached the stage of “no longer seeing the whole ox,” and his blade followed only the broad gaps between the major joints, whenever he hit a tangle of sinew and bone he still found it difficult and felt “chù rán”—alert, not daring to be careless.

“Jiè” is redoubled caution; “shì wéi zhǐ” means that after the eyes have fixed on the spot, he pauses briefly before moving the knife slowly—stressing extra care, not that he literally stops still. When the knife moves, it is “wēi shèn,” a light touch, not brute force.

“Huò” (same sound as “tì”) means suddenly, all at once; “jiě” here means to come apart. With very little force, flesh and bone seem to loosen on their own and fall apart with a rustle—many cuts, all smooth. When the ox is done, he stands holding the knife, looking around at ease; “chóu chú” here is composure and satisfaction, not the modern sense of hesitation. “Mǎn zhì” is contentment—that this bout of cutting has gone exactly as he wished—not smug pride.

Why content? Because he opened the ox without force and the knife was undamaged—hence “shàn dāo,” putting the knife away properly. That layer of meaning compares to a person in adversity who still responds in accord with circumstances, does not let the mind run wild, lets matters pass and dissolve, and dwells in a ease close to Wuwei (non-action), as in ordinary, uneventful days.

Link to the theme of “nurturing life”

From “In doing good, do not seek fame close at hand” onward, the text turns to nurturing life in the direct sense; the Cook Ding passage is only a parable. The four characters “dé yǎng shēng yān” at the end close the section lightly—economical in structure and on theme—so they should be read together with what precedes.

公文轩见右师而惊曰是何人也恶乎介也天与其人与曰天也非人也天之生是使独也人之貌有子细看 公文轩见右师而惊曰是何人也恶乎介也天与其人与曰天也非人也天之生是使独也人之貌有与也以是知其天也非人也 公文姓轩名也右师者已刖之人为右师之官也介独也刖而存一足也天与人与者言天生之始已如此邪人刖之邪刖足分明是人却曰天也非人天之生是使独者言天生他时只要他独有一足也何以知之凡人之形貌者有两足相并而行此于众人之中独异如此便是天使之非人使之也有与相并也此意盖谓人世有余不足皆是造物虽是人做得底也是造物为之盖欲人处患难之中亦当顺受之也 泽雉十步一啄百步一饮不蕲畜乎樊中神虽王不善也 前说患难顺受之意便是庖丁每至其族吾见其难处意思却于此数句借泽雉而喻乃言人生处世逆境常多便是履王不善也
Interpretation

When Gongwen Xuan met Youshi, he was startled and said: What kind of person is this? Why does he have only one foot? Was he made this way by Heaven, or did people do it to him?

Youshi said: It was Heaven, not people. Heaven made him born with one foot missing. Human form is naturally meant to walk on two feet side by side; that he alone among the crowd is like this is Heaven’s doing—it is not something people deliberately made happen.

This passage is saying: Some have full use of their feet and some do not; on the surface it looks like human affairs, but at root it is also the arrangement of the Creator. When people are in hardship, they should likewise accept and bear it as it comes.

A marsh pheasant takes ten steps to peck once and a hundred steps to drink once; it does not seek to be shut in a cage. Even if, in a cage, it were treated as a “sacred bird” and fed like a king, it would still think that a bad life.

The earlier talk about accepting hardship in affliction is of the same line as Cook Ding’s “whenever I come to where sinew and bone meet, I see the difficulty” in Butcher Ding Cuts Up an Ox; here the wild pheasant is used as a image: in the world, adverse circumstances are often many—like “being king in a cage” is not really good either. Better to be in the wild: though hard, one is free.

前说患难顺受之意便是庖丁每至其族吾见其难处意思却于此数句借泽雉而喻乃言人生处世逆境常多便是履虎尾游于羿彀中之意泽中之雉十步方得一啄百步方得一饮言其饮啄之难也若养于笼中则饮啄之物皆足而为雉者不愿如此故曰不蕲畜乎樊中蕲愿也樊笼也何以不愿盖笼中之饮啄虽饱雉之精神虽若畅旺而终不乐故曰神虽王不善也王音旺不善不乐也此意盖谓人能自爱其身不入世俗汨没之中更自好也
Interpretation

The preceding passage concerns accepting adversity with equanimity. Each time Butcher Ding encounters a tangle of bone and sinew, the author takes that moment as a cue and illustrates the point with the image of “the pheasant in the marsh.”

The pheasant’s situation

A wild pheasant living in the marsh may take ten steps to peck one mouthful of food and a hundred steps to find one drink—meaning how hard it is to forage and slake thirst in the wild. If you keep it in a cage with ample food and water, it may look vigorous and well fed, yet the bird itself does not want that life. Hence the line “it does not wish to be kept in a cage” (bu qi xu hu fan zhong): qi means “to wish,” and fan is a cage.

Why it refuses

In the cage, though it eats its fill and its spirit seems to flourish (“wang” here reads as “wang,” vigorous), it is still not at ease—“the spirit may seem kingly, yet that is not good” (shen sui wang, bu shan ye). “Not good” (bu shan) means uneasy in heart, not free in oneself.

What the metaphor is driving at

In essence: cherish yourself and do not let worldly affairs drag you under; all the more, hold to your own place and guard your spirit and mind. Like the pheasant that would rather peck every ten steps and drink every hundred than live caged with full bellies yet “spirit kingly yet not good”—bearing outward hardship is still better than seeming prosperous in the arena of fame and gain while inwardly ill at ease. This is in the same key as “treading on a tiger’s tail” and “playing in Yi’s bow-range”: life often meets adversity, but that still beats bending to an unfree “fullness” that fits self-care and keeping oneself whole.

老聃死秦失吊之三号而出弟子曰非夫子之友邪曰然然则吊焉若此可乎曰然始也吾以为其人也而今非也向吾入而吊焉有老者哭之如哭其子少者哭之如哭其母彼其所以防之必有不蕲言而言不蕲哭而哭者是遁天倍情忘其所受古者谓之遁天之刑庄子之学本于老也向吾入而吊焉有老者哭之如哭其子少者哭之如哭其母彼其所以防之必有不蕲言而言不蕲哭而哭者是遁天倍情忘其所受古者谓之遁天之刑庄子之学本于老子此处先把老子贬剥便是为贬剥尧舜夫子张本道我于老子亦无所私而况他人乎三号而出言不用情也弟子之问谓老子于秦失本朋友也何其吊之如此不用情乎夫子指秦失也始者吾以为其人者言吾始以老子为非常之人也今因吊之乃知其不为非常人也何者老子之死其弟子之哭无老无少皆如此其悲哀此必老子未能去其形迹而有以感防门弟子之心故其言其哭哀且慕者有不期然而然也天之所受本无物也犹以有情相感则是忘其始者之所受而遁逃其天理背弃其情实如此皆得罪于天者故曰遁天之刑倍与背同 适来夫子时也适去夫子顺也安时而处顺哀乐不能入也古者谓是帝之悬解
Interpretation

Plain-Language Reading of Zhuangzi Kouyi

Qin Shi Mourns Old Dan (Laozi)

After Old Dan (Laozi) died, Qin Shi came to mourn at the bier, cried three times, and left. A disciple asked: “Weren’t you the Master’s friend?” He answered: “Yes.” They asked again: “Can mourning be like that?” He answered: “It can.”

Qin Shi said: At first I took him for that kind of person; now I know he was not. When I went in just now, the older ones wept for him as for a son, the younger as for a mother. That they would “guard against” him yet also be moved—there must still be attachment in their hearts: words that should not have been spoken were spoken, tears that should not have fallen fell. That goes against Heaven’s principle and turns away from one’s original feeling; they forgot the portion they originally received from Heaven. The ancients called this “the penalty of evading Heaven” (dun tian zhi xing). “Bei” and “bei” (turning the back) mean the same: both are turning away.

(Kouyi note: Zhuangzi’s teaching grows from Laozi; here Laozi is gently lowered from the pedestal of “sage” first, to pave the way for later stripping down Yao, Shun, and Confucius. I hold no private favor toward Laozi—still less toward others.)

“Cried three times and left”: no hollow sentiment. The disciples’ question: Laozi and Qin Shi were friends—why mourn so “without feeling”? “Master” (fuzi) in the text refers to Qin Shi. “At first I took him for that kind of person; now I know he was not”: at first he thought Laozi was a transcendent man; through this mourning he saw he was not truly beyond—once Laozi died, disciples young and old wept so bitterly, which shows Laozi had not fully shed worldly traces and could still move people by emotion, so speech and weeping all happened “without intending to.” What Heaven bestows originally has no trace to grasp; if people still bond through emotion, they forget what they first received from Heaven—evading Heaven’s principle and turning from what is real—both can be called offending Heaven, hence “the penalty of evading Heaven.”


Accepting the Time, Following What Is Right, and the Sovereign’s Suspended Release

“Coming was your master’s time; going was your master’s following what is right. Settle in the time and rest in what follows—then sorrow and joy cannot enter. The ancients called this the Sovereign’s suspended release.”

Coming was when the master should come; going was when the master should go. At ease in the time and aligned with fate, grief and gladness cannot get into the heart. The ancients called this “the Sovereign’s suspended release”—as if the Sovereign above had undone the bonds that hung one in midair.

(Kouyi note: After the passage on Qin Shi, the principle of life and death is fully stated here to close the chapter.)

上面既说了秦失一段就此却发明尽死生之理以结一篇盖于天者故曰遁天之刑倍与背同 适来夫子时也适去夫子顺也安时而处顺哀乐不能入也古者谓是帝之悬解 上面既说了秦失一段就此却发明尽死生之理以结一篇盖欲人知其自然而然者于死生无所动其心而后可以养生也夫子有道者尊称之辞也言天地之间有道之士其来也亦适然而来其去也亦适然而去但当随其时而顺之既知其来去之适然则来亦不足为乐去亦不足为哀不能入者言不能动其心也悬者心有系着也帝者天也知天理之自然则天帝不能以死生系着我矣言虽天亦无奈我何也故曰帝之悬解 指穷于为薪火也不知其尽也 此死生之喻也谓如以薪炽火指其薪而观之则薪有穷尽之时而世间之火自古及今传而不绝未尝见其尽此三句奇文也死生之理固非可以言语尽且论其文前面讲理到此却把个譬喻结末岂非文字绝妙处 内篇人间世第四 前言养生此言人间世盖谓既有此身而处此世岂能尽绝人事但要以言语尽且论其文前面讲理到此却把个譬喻结末岂非文字绝妙处 内篇人间世第四 前言养生此言人间世盖谓既有此身而处此世岂能尽绝人事但要人处得好耳看这般意思庄子何尝迂阔何尝不理防事便是外篇所谓物莫足为也而不可以不为一段意思 颜回见仲尼请行曰奚之曰将之卫曰奚为焉曰回闻卫君其年壮其行独轻用其国而不见其过轻用民死死者以国量乎泽若蕉民其无如矣
Interpretation

After the passage on “Qin Shi” (Qin’s Loss), the text develops the theme of “seeing through birth and death” to close the chapter: one must understand that birth and death are natural, and that the heart is not tugged by them—only then can one speak of “nourishing life.” Here “fuzi” (the Master) is an honorific for one who has attained the Way. Between heaven and earth, those who possess the Way come only by chance and go only by chance; one need only follow the season and yield to circumstance. Once one knows that coming and going each have their proper “shi” (fit), one need not rejoice greatly at arrival nor grieve deeply at departure. “Cannot enter” means (birth and death) cannot penetrate the heart; “xuan” (suspension) means the heart is bound and obstructed; “di” (Emperor) refers to Heaven. If one knows that heavenly principle is so of itself, even the Emperor of Heaven cannot bind one with birth and death—Heaven itself cannot prevail over one; hence “di zhi xuan jie” (the Emperor’s suspended release).

“Pointing at the firewood that is burning and yet not seeing that it will burn out”—this uses birth and death as a comparison: like pointing at the wood to see the fire; the wood has a time when it is exhausted, yet the fire of the world has continued from antiquity to the present without ever being seen to run dry. These three lines of text are strikingly bold. The principle of birth and death cannot be fully stated; the preceding exposition ends with a metaphor—precisely where the writing excels.

Inner Chapter Four, “Renjian shi” (The Human World). The previous chapter treated nourishing life; this one treats the human world: once one has this body and dwells in the world, how can one wholly cut off human affairs? Yet one must live well within the world. From this angle, Zhuangzi is neither impractical nor indifferent to affairs; what is called “handling affairs” shares the same intent as the outer chapter’s “nothing is worth doing, yet one cannot fail to do it.”

Yan Hui visits Confucius and asks to travel. Confucius asks where; he answers: to the state of Wei. Asked what he will do there, Yan Hui says: I hear the ruler of Wei is young, arbitrary, rashly deploying state business without seeing his faults, rashly conscripting the people to death—the dead are as numerous as reeds in a marsh, if one measures by the population of the realm; the people truly have no way out.

其年壮其行独者言少年自用不恤众议也轻用其国而不自知其过失轻民之生而戕贼之量其国中前后见杀者若泽中之蕉然谓轻民如草芥也荀子富国篇不恤众议也轻用其国而不自知其过失轻民之生而戕贼之量其国中前后见杀者若泽中之蕉然谓轻民如草芥也荀子富国篇有曰以泽量与此意同本是若泽蕉却倒一字曰泽若蕉此是作文奇处云泽也梦亦泽也云梦昔皆为水今有土可耕不曰云梦土作乂而曰云土梦作又亦纤纩亦纤不曰纩纤而曰纤纩此文法也如往也民其无如者言其无所归也 回尝闻之夫子曰治国去之乱国就之医门多疾愿以所闻思其则庶几其国有瘳乎仲尼曰嘻若殆往而刑耳夫道不欲杂杂则多多则扰扰则忧忧而不救古之至人先存诸已而后存诸人所存于己者未定何暇至于暴人之所行且若亦知夫德之所荡而知之所为出乎哉德荡乎名知出乎争名也者相轧也知也者争之器也二者凶器非所以尽行也且德厚信矼未达人气名闻不争未达人心而强以仁义绳墨之言术也知也者争之器也二者凶器非所以尽行也且德厚信矼未达人气名闻不争未达人心而强以仁义绳墨之言术暴人之前者是以人恶有其美也命之曰菑人菑人者人必反菑之若殆为人菑
Interpretation

This passage explains two layers of meaning in related Zhuangzi chapters: the “young ruler who acts alone” and “Yan Hui’s plan to go to the state of Wei.”

On a young ruler who lightly regards the people

“Their years are still young and their conduct is solitary” means someone still young yet insists on going his own way, heedless of what others say. He readily mobilizes the power of the state yet does not know he is at fault; he treats the people’s lives lightly and kills and maims. Count those killed throughout the realm before and after, and they are as numerous as banana plants in a great marsh—an image for seeing the people as worthless as grass and chaff. Xunzi’s “Rich Country” chapter has a similar expression, “measured by the marsh,” which aligns with this sense. The original wording is “like banana in the marsh”; here it is inverted to “the marsh like banana,” a stylistic inversion in composition. It also says: the marsh is a marsh like Yun and Meng; Yun and Meng were ancient marshlands, and later there was soil that could be farmed—one does not say “Yun and Meng soil is cultivated,” but “Yun soil, Meng is cultivated”; “kuang” is fine hemp, and “kuang” also means fine—one does not say “kuang kuang xian,” but “kuang xian kuang”—again this kind of inverted syntax. As for “when he goes, the people have none to turn to,” it means the people have no one to rely on and nowhere to go.

Yan Hui asks to go and Confucius dissuades him

Yan Hui once said to Confucius: I have heard you say that in a state that has the Dao one should assist it, and in a chaotic state one should try to set it right; many patients gather at a physician’s door—I wish to use what I have heard and think of a way; perhaps Wei can still be saved? Confucius said: Alas, on this journey you will probably suffer punishment. The Dao abhors mixture; when mixed, affairs multiply; when they multiply, there is turmoil; when there is turmoil, there is worry; when worry is deep, nothing can save you. The ancient utmost person first establishes himself, then influences others; if he is not yet settled in himself, how can he have surplus strength to manage how a violent man acts? Do you not know that De (virtue/power) is scattered by reputation, and that “zhi” (clever knowing) shows itself as outward contention? Those who fight for fame undermine one another; clever knowing is the tool of contention; fame and clever knowing are both dangerous instruments—they cannot be used to “fully act” (jin xing) according to the ideal before a violent man. Moreover, even if one’s virtue is thick and one is sincere, upright, and firm, one still may not understand human feelings; even if one’s reputation is good and one does not contend, one still may not understand people’s hearts—yet you would forcibly apply the cord and ink line of ren and yi (humaneness and righteousness)—rules and standards—before a violent man. That is to meet his “beauty” with your “ugliness”; others will call you a “zai ren” (one who brings calamity). Called a zai ren, he will surely turn and harm you; you will probably be treated as a calamity and meet disaster.

This oral exegesis links Xunzi, examples of inverted composition, and the warning in “Man in the World, Associated with Other Men” when Yan Hui asks about going—the core point: not having perfected yourself yet while you forcefully “perfect” others, especially preaching ren and yi to a tyrant, turns fame and virtue into dangerous instruments.

有道则见无道则此圣贤之言也庄子却反其说曰治国去之乱国就之谓如人能医必其门多疾之时方可行其术若是已治之国又何用我愿以所闻思其则言欲以所闻于夫子者而告之卫君使之思其法则而知改悔庶几其国可安也若殆往而刑耳若汝也殆将也汝如此而往将为彼所刑戮而已谓不可往也道不欲杂者言此心不杂则纯一虚明苟有所容心谓彼既如何我又如何救之便是容心则在我已杂矣我既不纯一何能救之杂则多者言多端也扰者乱也忧者自苦也言汝且自苦何能救是容心则在我已杂矣我既不纯一何能救之杂则多者言多端也扰者乱也忧者自苦也言汝且自苦何能救人古之人必先存其在我者而后可以谏告他人苟存于我者未定何暇及他人乎彼之所行虽为暴恶我方自苦何暇及他德自然也知私智也才有求名之心则在我自然之德已荡失矣才有用知之私则争竞所由起矣故曰德荡乎名知出乎争相轧者相倾夺也争之器者言我以私智用彼亦以私知用彼此用智其争愈不已器用也曰名曰知皆天下之凶事此事不可以尽行言行之必有祸也矼厚也厚德即实德也厚信实有可信之行也我虽有德有信而未达彼人之性气我虽曰令名令闻而未达晓彼人之心谓我如信实有可信之行也我虽有德有信而未达彼人之性气我虽曰令名令闻而未达晓彼人之心谓我如何而强以仁义法度之言陈述于暴恶人之前人必恶汝谓汝矜夸自有其美也绳墨法度也术与述同菑人者凶人也必名汝曰凶人既有此名则菑反及汝汝今此去殆且为人所菑而已岂能化卫君而救其国乎
Interpretation

“When there is Dao, one appears; when there is no Dao, one hides” is what sages often say; Zhuangzi turns it around: when the state is already at peace, then go and govern; when the state is already in chaos, then go and set things right—like a skilled physician who waits until patients are piled up at the door before he will act. If the state were already well governed, why insist on going?

You probably mean to take what you learned from your teacher and tell the ruler of Wei, so that he may reflect and reform by these principles and perhaps Wei will be stabilized. But if you go rashly like this, you will very likely be executed.

“The Dao does not want mixture”: if the mind is not single-minded and clear, it cannot truly save others. If you still harbor thoughts like “Since he is like that, how should I save him?” that is accommodating the mind—the mind is already mixed. How can you save others when you are not pure yourself? When mixed, there is multiplicity; with multiplicity, disturbance; with disturbance, sorrow—you are confused and suffering first; how can you save anyone?

The ancients first had to establish what is kept within themselves—firm their own foundation—before they could admonish others. If what is kept within oneself is not yet settled, and you yourself are not yet steady, how can you spare strength for others? When the other person acts with violence and wickedness, you can barely endure your own distress; how can you care for him?

De (Virtue) is natural and inherent; zhi (knowledge) often means private cleverness and scheming. Once there is a desire for reputation, inherent De disperses; once private cleverness is used, contention arises—hence “De is scattered by reputation, knowledge emerges from contention”—those who contend undermine one another, and knowledge becomes a tool of strife. Reputation and knowledge in the world are often ominous; they cannot be fully acted upon; acting on them too much always brings disaster.

“Gang” means thick or solid. Thick De and thick trust mean genuine virtue and trustworthy conduct; but if you have not reached that person’s nature and temperament—you cannot fathom his character and qi; you have not understood his heart—you cannot see through his mind, yet you thrust words of benevolence, righteousness, and law (shengmo, the line and ink of rules) before a violent and wicked person, he will detest you and think you are boasting of your own excellence. “Shu” here is the same as “shu” (to state)—to lay out doctrine. “Zairen” means one who harms others and brings disaster—he will call you a disaster-bringer; once you have that name, calamity falls on you instead. If you go, you will likely first be harmed by others—how then can you transform the ruler of Wei and save the state?

夫且苟为悦贤而恶不肖恶用而求有以异若唯无诏王公必将乘人而斗其捷而目将荧之而色将平之口将营之容将形之心且成之是以火救火以水救水名之曰益多顺始无穷若殆以不信厚言必死于暴人之前矣
Interpretation

If you only put on a show of “loving the worthy and hating the unworthy,” why bother making yourself look different from everyone else? If you stubbornly keep silent and refuse to speak plainly, kings and lords will turn your cleverness against you in their rivalry: your eyes will dart away, your expression will be artificially calm, your mouth will turn things over and over, your face will be a mask, and your mind will plot how to “pull it off”—which is like fighting fire with fire or water with water; it only makes things worse. Follow that beginning to its end and there is no limit; you are like someone walking through danger.

If the other person can already tell the worthy from the unworthy and truly loves the former and hates the latter, what is left for me to do? Why should I move my mouth, my face, my performance, or my scheming again? Likewise, heaping fire on fire and water on water only piles up more; start down that road and the trouble never ends—you are again risking yourself in a situation of distrust—and however fine your words, you still will not escape dying before a violent man.

Context for reading Zhuangzi: This passage belongs to the discussion of how to face tyrants and cruel rulers (in the same vein as Yan Hui asking Confucius about going to Wei). The core warning is this: before a tyrant who already knows how to distinguish the worthy from the unworthy, if you still use flattery, performance, and clever stratagems to “preach loving the worthy and hating the unworthy,” you not only achieve nothing—you seem to feed the other’s violent temper—and in the end you cannot even keep your life. The deeper difficulty is that when the other already “knows the worthy and is pleased, knows the unworthy and detests them,” for you to repeat the lesson is only redundant, dangerous self-display.

彼若知贤而悦之知不肖而恶之则何用我口将营之容将形之心且成之是以火救火以水救水名之曰益多顺始无穷若殆以不信厚言必死于暴人之前矣 彼若知贤而悦之知不肖而恶之则何用我更别有所求故曰恶用而求有以异彼惟其不知贤不肖所以如此所为彼既不知贤则安知汝为贤者而信汝之言乎诏召也若汝也卫君不曾召汝故曰若惟无诏汝既不召而自往则彼以王公之贵必将乘汝言语之间而争欲求胜斗争也捷胜也汝到此时为其所困则目必将然荧也而汝也而色将平之者言汝方为颜色以求平于彼谓屈服其颜色以求自解也口将营之者言自将营救解说也容将形者言容貌之间必见恐惧跽擎之形也心且成之者言用心以成顺之也梁武之者言汝方为颜色以求平于彼谓屈服其颜色以求自解也口将营之者言自将营救解说也容将形者言容貌之间必见恐惧跽擎之形也心且成之者言用心以成顺之也梁武帝辨折贺琛处正合此卦影盖言其争不胜而自屈服也他本凶暴又得胜汝一胜其气愈旺则是水救水火救火也益増也益多者言増多其恶也顺此而往则其为恶愈无穷极所为暴戾益甚矣厚言者犹深言也汝未有以信于人乃以不信之身而深言于暴人之前必为其所杀也 且昔者桀杀关龙逢纣杀王子比干是修其身以下伛拊人之民以下拂其上者也故其君因其修以挤之是好名者也昔者尧攻丛枝胥敖禹攻有扈国为虚厉其所杀也
Interpretation

If the other person could tell the worthy from the unworthy—delighting in the former and loathing the latter—what would they need you for? Why would you need to strive to be different from them? It is precisely because they cannot tell worthy from unworthy that they act as they do.

Since they do not even know who is worthy, how could they recognize you as worthy or trust what you say? In the scripture, “summoned to an audience” (zhaozhao) means being called to court; “if it were someone like you” (ruo ru ye) means a case like yours—the Lord of Wei never summoned you, which is why the text says ruo (“as if,” “in such a case”). You went on your own without being summoned. The other sits in the rank of king or duke; in the gaps between your words he is sure to contend with you, each side trying to get the upper hand. Jie means winning the argument. When you are trapped in that, your eyes will dart and flicker; your face must still look calm—that is using expression to placate him and humbling yourself to seek reconciliation; your mouth will be busy explaining and saving yourself; in bearing and gesture you cannot help showing fear and the posture of kneeling and holding up your hands; inwardly you must keep yielding to him and perform submission through and through. Emperor Wu of Liang’s rebuke of He Chen fits the image of this hexagram: unable to win the dispute, you can only submit.

The other was already prone to violence, and once he wins the argument, your defeat makes his arrogance burn hotter—like fighting fire with water or fire with fire: the more you “help,” the worse it gets. Yi means increase; yi duo means the evil piles up. Follow that path and his wickedness has no end; his brutality only grows heavier. Hou yan means words spoken with great weight and depth. You have not yet made him trust you, yet in the status of one who is not trusted you speak deeply and gravely before a violent man—you will certainly be killed by him.

Furthermore, in the past Jie killed Guan Longfeng and Zhou killed Prince Bi Gan: they cultivated themselves, yet below they catered to the people and above they went against the ruler, so the ruler used their “self-cultivation” to push them aside—that is the type who chase a good name. In the past Yao attacked the states of Congzhi and Xu’ao, and Yu attacked Youhu; the countries were emptied and ruined and many were killed—(such deeds) belong to the same kind of pattern.

且昔者桀杀关龙逢纣杀王子比干是修其身以下伛拊人之民以下拂其上者也故其君因其修以挤之是好名者也昔者尧攻丛枝胥敖禹攻有扈国为虚厉身为刑戮其用兵不止其求实无已是皆求名实者也而独不闻之乎名实者圣人之所不能胜也而况若乎龙逢比干皆修其身以爱民为谏不知民自别人之民汝乃下而伛拊之伛拊爱养之意也桀纣不爱民而汝乃爱桀纣之民是下拂其上也所以见杀修善也因其好善反以挤怒之谓此皆好名之过也丛枝胥敖有扈皆是寓言国为邱墟死为厉厉无后无归之也丛枝胥敖有扈之所以取祸至此者皆用兵不止以求名实也实利也不能胜言不能堪也言求名自利之人虽尧禹且不能堪至于灭其国而况汝乎胜音升尧禹无此事皆寓言也 虽然若必有以也尝以语我来颜回曰端而虚勉而一则可乎曰恶恶可夫以阳为充孔采色不定常人之所不违因案人之所感以求容与其心名之曰皆寓言也 虽然若必有以也尝以语我来颜回曰端而虚勉而一则可乎曰恶恶可夫以阳为充孔采色不定常人之所不违因案人之所感以求容与其心名之曰日渐之德不成而况大德乎将执而不化外合而内不訾其庸讵可乎
Interpretation

In antiquity Jie killed Guan Longfeng and Zhou killed Prince Bi Gan. They had cultivated themselves and, from below, humbled themselves to soothe the common people, yet from above they went against their rulers. The rulers therefore used their reputation for “loving goodness” as a pretext to push them aside and destroy them. That is the price of craving fame.

Long ago, in allegory, Yao attacked the states of Congzhi and Xu’ao, and Yu attacked Youhu. The countries were emptied, the people were ruined, and the rulers themselves suffered punishment. They never stopped resorting to arms, seeking only reputation and tangible gain. All of this belongs to those who chase name and profit. Have you never heard? Longfeng and Bi Gan cultivated themselves, cared for the people, and remonstrated with their lords, yet they failed to see that the people already belong to someone: as ministers below, they humbled themselves to comfort the subjects of Jie and Zhou. Jie and Zhou did not love the people, yet they loved people who still belonged to Jie and Zhou. That is to oppose what is above from below, and for that they were killed. What they practiced was “goodness,” but the ruler turned their love of goodness against them—exclusion and wrath—and all of that counts as the fault of loving a good name.

Congzhi, Xu’ao, and Youhu are names from fable. When a state becomes a wasteland, the dead become vengeful ghosts—without descendants, without a home for their spirits. Those countries came to such an end because war never ceased and name and profit were pursued. When real gain is not secured and words cannot be borne, even those who speak for fame and private advantage are more than Yao and Yu—in the story—can tolerate, to say nothing of the annihilation of a state. How much less can you?

On the reading “sheng,” Yao and Yu never actually did any of this; the whole account is allegory.

“Even so, you must have some plan. You might as well tell me.”

Yan Hui said, “To be upright and empty-hearted, diligent and single-minded—would that do?”

Confucius said, “No, no. When yang qi fills you and the colors at your face’s openings shift without rest, when you do not go against what ordinary people do and you follow whatever emotion others show in order to win acceptance and harmony—that is called virtue that wears away day by day. Virtue consumed little by little cannot succeed; how much less can great virtue? You will be held to a form that never transforms, agreeing outwardly while dissenting inwardly. How could that be forced to work?”

又设一转言汝之欲往也必有所以以用也且试以语我尝试也来助语也端而虚者端正其身虚豁其心也勉而一者黾勉而谨终如始也能如此则可否恶恶可者言甚不可也阳为充孔者言得志之人阳气方充满其貌甚扬扬自得孔甚也采色不定者言其骄矜之色不常也寻常之人每每不敢违而顺之畏之也彼见人人皆畏已而汝欲以言语感动之彼将求欲案服汝心以快其意故曰求容与其心容与自快之意日渐小德也言汝此等人已而汝欲以言语感动之彼将求欲案服汝心以快其意故曰求容与其心容与自快之意日渐小德也言汝此等人名之曰小德且不能成况能成大德乎执而不化者固执而不能回也若如此则外将以端虚而求合于人内则守其勉而一者谓我在内无所訾病伎俩止于如此讵能自以为可乎 然则我内直而外曲成而上比内直者与天为徒与天为徒者知天子之与已皆天之所子而独以已言蕲乎而人善之蕲乎而人不善之邪若然者人谓之童子是之谓与天为徒外曲者与人之为徒也擎跽曲拳人臣之礼也人皆为之吾敢不为邪为人之所为者人亦无疵焉是之谓与人为徒成而上比者与古为徒其言虽教谪之实也古之有也非吾有也若然者虽直不为病是之谓与古为徒若是则可乎
Interpretation

Another passage in paraphrase: If you mean to go and see him, you need some workable approach. Try telling me what you have in mind.

“Upright in bearing and empty in mind”: the body is straight and composed, the heart clear and uncluttered. “Diligent and unified”: exert yourself without slackening, from start to finish as one. If you can be like that, will it work? “How could it?”—decidedly not.

“When yang fills the openings”: when someone has got his way, yang qi is at its peak—bearing is buoyant, spirit high, presence expansive. “The flush of pride is not fixed”: the look of arrogance does not stay the same. Ordinary people often dare not resist; they can only comply and fear. When the other sees that everyone fears him, if you try to move him with words, he will only want you to yield and flatter him so he feels pleased—hence “seeking ease for his heart.” Rongyu (ease and compliance) means taking one’s own pleasure; keep that up and De grows smaller and smaller. To call people like you possessors of small De is already too much—how much less great De?

“Clutching one’s views without transforming”: stubbornly holding to one’s own ideas, unable to adapt. If it is so, outwardly you use upright emptiness to seek harmony with others, inwardly you cling to your own “diligence and unity,” thinking you have no fault within and your tricks go no further—can you take yourself to be in the right?


Then: I am straight within and curved without, mature in accomplishment and likening myself to the ancients.

Straight within means being a companion of Heaven. To be a companion of Heaven is to know that the Son of Heaven and oneself are alike sons of Heaven—why insist on pushing only your own will? If others say it is good, call it good; if they say it is not, call it not—if you can be like that, people will call you like a child; that is what being a companion of Heaven means.

Curved without means being a companion of others. Holding the hands together, kneeling, bending the fists—these are the rites of a subject; everyone does them, and would I dare not? Doing what others do, others find no fault with you—that is being a companion of others.

Mature in accomplishment and likening oneself to the ancients means being a companion of antiquity. The words may sound like admonition, but in truth they were already there in antiquity—not invented by me alone. If it is so, even blunt speech is no harm; that is being a companion of antiquity.

If it is like this, will it do?—Would that be acceptable?

然则而下又设为颜子之答分作三截内直者内以此理自守其真实也此直字与真字相似自天子之贵下而与我皆天之所生则是皆出于自然者岂敢下又设为颜子之答分作三截内直者内以此理自守其真实也此直字与真字相似自天子之贵下而与我皆天之所生则是皆出于自然者岂敢以已言自私欲人善其是者不善其非者若无此自私之心则其浑浑若童子然则与天合矣故曰与天为徒外曲者外尽擎跽曲拳之礼人人皆为之则我亦为之人于我亦无疵病此因拜下礼也虽违众吾从下处生此等议论以讥诮圣门如此则与人合故曰与人为徒成者自已之成说也比合也以自已之成说而上合于古人言引古人以为证也虽借古人教诲之言乃是当面陈说是非而皆有谴谪之实盖谓我之所言非出于我古人已有之言也若如此则虽讦直以暴其所行而人亦不以为罪故曰虽直而不病与古为徒者言其说与古人面陈说是非而皆有谴谪之实盖谓我之所言非出于我古人已有之言也若如此则虽讦直以暴其所行而人亦不以为罪故曰虽直而不病与古为徒者言其说与古人合也若是则可者言如此可以说卫君否也 仲尼曰恶恶可太多政法而不谍虽固亦无罪虽然止是耳矣夫胡可以及化犹师心者也
Interpretation

Since that is the case, the text below again has Yan Hui answer in three parts. “Inner uprightness” (nei zhi): inwardly use this principle to hold fast to one’s authenticity; here the word “upright” (zhi) is close in meaning to “true” (zhen). From the Son of Heaven’s supreme rank down to those on a level with myself, all are born of Heaven, all arise from nature—how could one dare to be selfish by one’s own whim, treating what people approve as right and what they disapprove as wrong? Without this selfish mind, one is as unselfconscious as a child; then one joins with Heaven, hence “a companion of Heaven” (yu tian wei tu).

“Outward bending” (wai qu): outwardly one fully performs the ritual of holding the hands and bending the fists in salute; everyone does so, and I follow; toward me others likewise find no fault or blame. This comes from the etiquette of bowing low. Though it goes against the crowd, I still arise from the lower place. (Note: discussions of this sort aim to satirize the Confucian school.) Thus one joins with people, hence “a companion of people” (yu ren wei tu).

“Completion” (cheng): one completes one’s own account—bi he means matching and agreeing: matching what one has established as one’s view with the words of the ancients, citing the ancients as proof. Though one borrows the ancients’ teaching words, one is stating right and wrong face to face, and there is real reproof in it; the point is that what I say did not originate with me—the ancients already said it. If so, then even blunt exposure of conduct and laying bare what people do, people still do not treat it as offense, hence “though upright, it does not harm.”

“A companion of the ancients” (yu gu wei tu): the account aligns with the ancients. If it is so, then is it acceptable—can one speak this way to serve the lord of Wei?

Confucius said: No! How could that work! Too many rules and corrective devices without subtle fit (bu die); though rigid, there is still no crime in it. Even so, it stops at that—how could it reach transformation! It is still shi xin—relying on one’s own mind as teacher.


Brief note: This passage belongs to the Zhuangzi chapter “Human Affairs in the World,” around Yan Hui’s request to go to Wei and Confucius’s discussion of “heart-mind fasting” (xin zhai). Commentators explain Yan Hui’s “inner uprightness, outward bending, and completing one’s speech,” and quote Confucius’s rejection—“How could that work! Too many rules and corrective devices without subtle fit… still shi xin”—meaning that formal uprightness, courtesy, and citation of antiquity alone still “teach from the heart-mind” and do not attain xin zhai.

政事也法方法也谓汝所言事目方法太多而终是不安谍谍音叠安也虽能如此三者固亦无罪然亦止于自免而已安可以化人故曰胡可以及化此其病在何处盖汝三者之说皆是师其有为之心便是容心便非无迹便非自然化人故曰胡可以及化此其病在何处盖汝三者之说皆是师其有为之心便是容心便非无迹便非自然之道 颜回曰吾无以进矣敢问其方仲尼曰斋吾将语若有而为之其易邪易之者皞天不宜颜回曰回之家贫唯不饮酒不茹荤者数月矣若此则可以为斋乎曰是祭祀之斋非心斋也回曰敢问心斋仲尼曰若一志无听之以耳而听之以心无听之以心而听之以气听止于耳心止于符气也者虚而待物者也唯道集虚虚者心斋也 无以进者言更无向上着也有而为之其易邪言汝道汝有此伎俩要为之甚易邪才萌此轻物者也唯道集虚虚者心斋也 无以进者言更无向上着也有而为之其易邪言汝道汝有此伎俩要为之甚易邪才萌此轻易之心则皞天之意不相乐矣故曰易之者皞天不宜此两句最是人生受用切实处祭祀之斋在外心斋在内一志者一其心而不杂也听之以耳则听犹在外听之以心则听犹在我听之以气则无物矣听以耳则止于耳而不入于心听以心则外物必有与我相符合者便是物我对立也气者顺自然而待物以虚虚即为道矣虚者道之所在故曰唯道集虚即此虚字便是心斋
Interpretation

On Governing and “Transforming Others”

What is meant by “affairs of government,” “laws,” and “methods” is that the names and methods you speak of for doing things and establishing rules are too many, and in the end you still cannot find peace. Diedie (a reduplicated form, i.e. chuchu, uneasy and anxious) means the heart never settles. Even if you can manage all three, you are not necessarily guilty—but you only save yourself and avoid disaster. How can you transform others? Hence: “How can one reach the level of transforming people?” Where is the flaw? In these three lines of teaching you have learned the mind of youwei (deliberate, purposive action)—when the heart keeps calculation and traces, it is no longer without trace and is not the way of nature (ziran), so you cannot transform others.

Yan Hui Asks about “Direction”; Confucius Explains “Heart-Fasting”

Yan Hui said: I have nothing left by which to advance further; may I ask what path there is? Confucius said: First fast, then I will tell you. If in your heart you still think, “I must act with purpose,” is that not too easy? Once you feel it is “easy,” you no longer match the spirit of Haotian (the vast, natural Heaven). Yan Hui said: My family is poor; I only go without wine and meat for a few months—is that fasting? Confucius said: That is fasting for sacrifice, not xinzhai (Heart-Fasting). Yan Hui asked: What is Heart-Fasting? Confucius said: Unify your intent in one point; do not listen with the ears—listen with the xin (heart-mind); do not listen with the heart-mind—listen with qi (vital energy). Listening with the ears stops at the ears; listening with the heart-mind, the heart stops at “matching” outer things; qi is empty and used to receive what is outside—only the Dao (Dao) can gather in emptiness. Emptiness (xu) is Heart-Fasting.

Elaboration in Oral Commentary

“Wuyi jin” (nothing by which to advance further) means: there is no higher step left to climb. “You er wei zhi qi yi ye” means: you feel you have this skill and want to “do” something—is that really so easy? The moment you stir a thought of taking it lightly or casually, you no longer align with Haotian’s intent; hence “if it seems easy, it does not suit Haotian”—these two lines are very practical in daily life. Sacrificial fasting is on the outside of the body; Heart-Fasting is within the inner mind. “Yizhi” (one intent) is one mind without mixture. Listening with the ear keeps hearing outside; listening with the heart keeps hearing “here” in the self; listening with qi, there is no fixed opposition between thing and self. Listening with the ear stops at the ear and does not enter the heart; listening with the heart, outer things must correspond one by one with “me”—that is opposition between thing and self. Qi follows nature and responds to things through emptiness; emptiness is where the Dao abides, hence “only the Dao gathers in emptiness”—this word xu (emptiness) is Heart-Fasting.

颜回曰回之未始得使实自回也得使之也未始有回也可谓虚乎夫子曰尽矣 得使言得教诲也此为颜子顿悟之言谓未得教诲之时犹自有我及既得教诲之后未始有我矣忘我则虚也尽矣者谓汝之所言尽其理矣 吾语若若能入游其樊而无感其名言得教诲也此为颜子顿悟之言谓未得教诲之时犹自有我及既得教诲之后未始有我矣忘我则虚也尽矣者谓汝之所言尽其理矣 吾语若若能入游其樊而无感其名入则鸣不入则止无门无毒一宅而寓于不得已则几矣 若汝也人世如在樊笼之中汝能入其中而游不为虚名所感动有迹则可名才至有迹则是动其心矣处世无心则无迹无迹则心无所动故曰游其樊而无感其名自此以下正是教人处世之法入则鸣是可与之言而与之言也不入则止是不可与之言而不与之言也意与论语同但文奇耳有方所则有门无方所则无门矣有臭味则有毒无臭味则无毒矣毒药味也此皆无心无迹之喻宅居也以混然之一为吾所居而寓此心于不得已之中则人间世之道尽矣几尽也 绝迹易无行地难
Interpretation

Yan Hui said: “Before I was truly ‘set in motion’ [by teaching], there was still a ‘Yan Hui’; once I was in a situation of being set in motion (taught, entrusted), there was no longer a stubborn ‘Yan Hui’—can this be called xu (emptiness)?”

The Master said: “You’ve said it all.”


“Being set in motion” means truly receiving instruction and being awakened. This is Yan Hui speaking after enlightenment: before instruction, there was still a “self” in the heart; after instruction, that clinging “self” had dissolved. Forgetting the self is xu. The Master’s “You’ve said it all” affirms that Yan Hui had put the point exactly right.


“I say to you: if you can enter the cage and play there without being tugged by reputation.” What follows is about how to live in the human world.

People in the world are like birds in a cage. To enter and roam yet not be moved by empty fame—where there are traces, fame follows; once there are traces, the heart is pulled. Living without contrivance leaves no trace; no trace, and the heart is not stirred by outer things. Hence “roam in the cage without being touched by its name.”

“When they open the door, speak; when they do not, stop”: when the other’s door is open and they can hear, speak; when it is shut and they cannot, hold your tongue. The idea is close to the Analects line about speaking when it is right and staying silent when it is not—only Zhuangzi’s phrasing is more striking.

“No gate, no poison”: where there is a fixed place, there is a “gate”; with no fixed place, there is “no gate.” Bias and attachment are like a “poisonous taste”; without bias or clinging, there is “no poison.” These are all images of no contrivance, no trace.

“Take ‘the One’ as your dwelling and lodge the heart in what cannot be avoided”: make the undivided One your home, and settle the heart in the measure of what must be done—no forcing, no overreaching; stop when it is time to stop. Then the main points of living in the human world are nearly complete. “Nearly” (ji) means “almost fully there.”


“Erasing traces is easy; walking without touching the ground is hard.”

“Traces” are footprints. Standing still, wiping away footprints is still relatively easy. Walking yet leaving no mark on the ground—that is, moving in the world without clinging to appearances—that is hard.

The earlier “no gate, no poison; one dwelling in the unavoidable” says: not hiding in empty stillness, but in a world with gates and poison, with the unavoidable, still keeping empty roaming. “Walking without touching the ground” goes a step beyond “erasing traces”: moving without fixed place, the heart not dwelling in signs—that is what is truly difficult.

迹足迹也止而不行则绝无足迹为吾所居而寓此心于不得已之中则人间世之道尽矣几尽也 绝迹易无行地难 迹足迹也止而不行则绝无足迹此为易事然人岂能不行哉必行于地而无行地之迹则为难此意盖谓人若事事不为此却易事然谓之人生何者非事安得不为唯无为而无所不为则为难也 为人使易以伪为天使难以伪 为人使易以伪言为人欲所役则易至于欺伪唯防心而听造物之所使则无所容伪矣人使即人欲也天使即天理之日用者也难易二字有意易易流也难无所容其伪也 闻以有翼飞者矣未闻以无翼飞者也闻以有知知者矣未闻以无知知者也 闻以有翼飞者矣言鸟之飞必以翼也无翼而飞便是不疾而速不行而至此所谓神也此句乃喻下句盖以有知为知人之常也惟知其所不知则为无知之知此则造道之妙矣 瞻彼阕者虚室生白吉祥止止夫且不止是之谓坐驰瞻视也此以虚室喻心也谓视彼密室之以有知为知人之常也惟知其所不知则为无知之知此则造道之妙矣
Interpretation

Vernacular Interpretation of Zhuangzi Kouyi (Zhuangzi Explained in Oral Commentary)

On “Traces (footprints)”

“Traces” means footprints. If you stand still and do not walk, you leave no footprints at all—that is easy. But how can a person not walk? To walk upon the ground yet leave no trace upon it—that is hard.

The point is like this: if you do nothing at all, that is easy; but in human life, what is not an affair? How can one do nothing? Only wuwei (non-action) while “doing nothing yet leaving nothing undone” is the difficult practice.

“Serving as a human agent” and “serving as Heaven’s agent”

“Serving as a human agent” easily mixes in falsehood; “serving as Heaven’s agent” is hard because not a speck of falsity is allowed.

Going further: driven by human desire, one easily falls into deceit and pretense; if one guards the mind and heeds only the mandate of transformation, hypocrisy has no room. “Human agent” means human desire; “Heaven’s agent” means the working of heavenly principle in daily life.

The words “hard” and “easy” carry depth: what is easy easily turns false; what is hard is hard because it tolerates no trace of pretense.

Having wings and wingless flight, having knowledge and unknowing

We have heard of flying by wings, not of flying without wings; we have heard of knowing by what is already known, not of knowing by unknowing.

The first line uses the bird as a metaphor: a bird must fly with wings; to fly without wings is swift without haste, arrival without walking—close to a “spiritual” state. That line sets up the next: to know by what one already knows is ordinary method; to know what one does not know—that is “knowing by unknowing”—and that is the subtle entry to the Way.

“Gazing at that empty gate” and “sitting while racing”

“Gazing at that empty gate”—looking toward the vast, open doorway; “empty room gives birth to white light”—in an empty chamber light arises of itself; “auspiciousness rests in resting”—blessing lies in stopping and settling; “if it still will not stop, this is called sitting while racing”—if the mind still refuses to stop, it is called “sitting yet galloping within.”

Here “empty room” stands for the mind: if the mind cannot empty, clarify, and settle, the body may sit in stillness while the inside still chases outer things—that is “sitting while racing.” (Note: some transmitted versions have textual disorder around this passage; interpretation should take “empty the mind, stop thoughts, and guard against sitting-while-racing” as the main theme.)

瞻彼阕者虚室生白吉祥止止夫且不止是之谓坐驰瞻视也此以虚室喻心也谓视彼密室之中才有空缺处必有光入来是光自空中出也以彼之阕喻我之虚则见虚中自然生明生白即生明也不曰生明而曰生白此庄子之奇文也即此虚明之地便是万物之所由萃吉祥福也止于其所止下止字是虚处也唯止则虚唯虚则明便是戒生定定生慧之意若我才容心而不能自止则身虽坐于此而心驰于外又安能坐忘乎此以坐驰二字反说坐忘也 夫徇耳目内通而外于心知鬼神将来舍而况人乎是万物之化也禹舜之所纽也伏羲几蘧之所行终而况散焉者乎 耳目之闻见皆内通于心我若无所容心则顺耳目之闻见虽通于内人乎是万物之化也禹舜之所纽也伏羲几蘧之所行终而况散焉者乎
Interpretation

The gist of this passage from Zhuangzi Kouyi (Oral Explanations of Zhuangzi) is as follows:

Look at a room with gaps or openings—light shines in through those gaps, as if the light were born from empty space. The commentary compares “a room with openings” to the heart-mind (xin). The point is: when the heart-mind can be empty, it is like an opening in a wall; clear light naturally enters. From emptiness, whiteness and brightness can arise; Zhuangzi deliberately says “giving birth to whiteness” rather than “giving birth to brightness”—that is his characteristic way of putting it. This realm of empty clarity is exactly where the ten thousand things gather. “Auspiciousness rests only where it should rest” (jixiang zhizhi): fortune and blessing settle only in the place where they ought to stop; the second “rest” (zhi) refers to the place of empty stillness. When you can rest, you become empty; when you are empty, clarity arises—this aligns with the sequence of precepts, concentration, and wisdom (jie, ding, hui): first still clinging and wandering thought; when the mind is empty, wisdom is born. If the mind is still stuffed with stray thoughts and cannot stop on its own, the body may be sitting but the mind runs outward—that is “sitting while galloping” (zuochi); how then can there be “sitting in forgetting” (zuowang)? The commentary uses the two characters zuochi from the negative side to explain what zuowang means.

What the ears and eyes see and hear all converges in the heart-mind. If the heart-mind holds nothing and receives nothing, it allows what ears and eyes perceive to enter without being turned by outer conditions; the mind does not race outward—then even when one follows the ears and eyes, seeing and hearing flow inward without disturbing inner knowing, and ghosts and spirits will come to attach and dwell there, to say nothing of ordinary people. This empty, still openness is precisely the hinge on which the ten thousand things are transformed and nurtured—the pivot that Yu and Shun guarded, the ultimate path that Fuxi and Jixu practiced. As for those whose minds scatter and thoughts tangle, they should all the more take this as their direction home.

耳目之闻见皆内通于心我若无所容心则顺耳目之闻见虽通于内而实外于心知何以谓外于心知盖言心不动而外物不能入也虽闻其所闻见其所见而无心于闻见也如此则此心之虚与鬼神通何况人乎谓到此方能感化人也鬼神来舍即是至诚如神此心之中自有鬼神与造物通故曰来舍上既说了却结以一句曰此是万物之化也言此乃造化之理万物之所由出也舜禹之所见其大枢纽止如此伏羲几蘧以此行而终其身何况其下者乎几蘧或谓古帝王之名然无所考必竟寓言也散者言寻之所见其大枢纽止如此伏羲几蘧以此行而终其身何况其下者乎几蘧或谓古帝王之名然无所考必竟寓言也散者言寻常之人也自绝迹而下又别发明不可粘上段说 叶公子高将使于齐问于仲尼曰王使诸梁也甚重齐之待使者盖将甚敬而不急匹夫犹未可动也而况诸侯乎吾甚栗之子尝语诸梁也曰凡事若小若大寡不道以欢成事若不成则必有人道之患事若成则必有阴阳之患若成若不成而后无患者唯有德者能之吾食也执粗而不臧爨无欲凊之人今吾朝受命而夕饮冰我其内与吾未至乎事之情而既有阴阳之患矣事若不成必有人道之患是两也为人臣者不足以任之子其有以语我来 诸梁叶公之名也子高其字也使诸梁者甚重言使齐之行甚重患是两也为人臣者不足以任之子其有以语我来
Interpretation

Section one (on the heart-mind and transforming influence)

What the ears hear and the eyes see all reach the heart-mind; yet if nothing in the heart-mind is filled up by these, the heart-mind can stay unobstructed—what is heard and seen may enter inward, but in knowing they seem to remain outside the heart-mind. What does “outside the heart-mind” mean? It means the heart-mind is not pulled by outer things, so outer things cannot get in. Though one still hears and still sees, the heart-mind does not fix on hearing or seeing. When the heart-mind can be empty to this degree, it can connect with ghosts and spirits—how much more so with people? Hence “ghosts and spirits come to lodge” means utmost sincerity is like spirit; within this heart-mind there is from the start a ghost-and-spirit that connects with creation and transformation, hence “come to lodge.”

Having said this, one line gathers it up: this is “the transformation of the ten thousand things”—the pattern of creation and transformation, the hinge from which the ten thousand things issue; what Shun and Yu saw was no more than this. Fu Xi and Jilü lived their whole lives in this way—how much more so people on a lower level? “San” refers to ordinary people.

From “jue ji” (severing traces) downward is another layer of meaning; it cannot be read as continuous with what precedes.


Section two (Ye Gong Zi Gao asks Zhong Ni)

Zhulian was Ye Gong’s name; Zigao was his style. Sending Zhulian on a mission was a weighty charge. Qi would probably treat the envoy with respect but without urgency—ordinary people are already hard to handle, how much more feudal lords? I am very afraid. You once said to Zhulian: in affairs large or small, few succeed smoothly without the Dao; if the affair fails, there will be trouble in human relations; if it succeeds, there will also be yin-yang (favorable and adverse, gain and loss) worries. Whether it succeeds or fails, only one with De can afterward be free of lingering harm. I eat only coarse food, do not seek flavor in cooking, and do not demand that the cook be clean—yet now I receive orders in the morning and by evening I am drinking ice; is my inner self not burning? Before I have touched the real situation of the affair, yin-yang worry is already there; if the affair fails, human trouble must follow—pressed from both sides. As a minister I cannot bear this commission; do you have something to tell me?

诸梁叶公之名也子高其字也使诸梁者甚重言使齐之行甚重难也甚敬而不急者言待使虽有礼而所扣之事其应常缓匹夫之相与扣应之不酬且无如之何况诸侯乎所以栗而惧也子指夫子也言夫子尝有教我之言曰事无小大鲜不言以欢洽方得事成也寡鲜也不道不言也为国谋事若不成则必有刑责故曰人道之患若劳心计较虽得成事而多以忧思致疾故曰有阴阳之患若欲成与不成其后皆无患者惟有德之人方可自此以上皆曰孔子之语也今我自受使命以来饮食之间不知其味粗者不知为粗臧者不知为臧臧美也言粗食亦犹美食也常时多有饮食之事则厨爨之间灶常不冷故厨者欲凊而不能今既忧思饮食寡少则灶常凊矣且我朝方受命而胸中焦劳夕已饮冰矣情者实也我方受命未曾实美食也常时多有饮食之事则厨爨之间灶常不冷故厨者欲凊而不能今既忧思饮食寡少则灶常凊矣且我朝方受命而胸中焦劳夕已饮冰矣情者实也我方受命未曾实理防事已成此病万一不成则又有刑责是两受患也为人之臣至于如此实不可当任当也子其有以语我谓何以教我也来助语也
Interpretation

Zhuliang was Ye Gong’s personal name, and Zigao was his courtesy name. Sending Zigao on a mission refers to this embassy to Qi—a weighty and difficult assignment.

“Very respectful but not urgent” means that as envoy he was punctilious in ceremony, yet when asked about official business his replies were often unhurried. In ordinary exchanges, if someone responds but does not really answer, you can still do little about it—how much more so with feudal lords? So Zigao was inwardly afraid and cautious.

Here “zi” means Confucius. Zigao said: Confucius once taught me that affairs great or small rarely succeed without words that harmonize and carry the day. “Guo” means “few”; “bu dao” means not to speak or not to open one’s mouth. When planning for the state fails, punishment follows—this is the calamity of the human way (ren dao zhi huan). If one toils in calculation and even succeeds, one often falls ill from worry—this is the calamity of yin and yang (yin yang zhi huan), harm to body and mind through anxiety and overwork. If one wishes that whether things succeed or fail, no calamity follows afterward, only a person of virtue (you de) can manage that. All of the above quotes Confucius.

Zigao also said: Since I accepted the mission, at meals I cannot taste flavor; coarse food does not feel coarse, fine food does not feel fragrant—“zang” here means “fine, good,” yet even coarse fare seems like delicacies (because the mind is not on eating). Usually I ate heavily and the kitchen fire never went cold, so the cook could not rest the stove; now worry is so heavy and I eat so little that the stove is often cold. Moreover, the morning I received the charge, my chest felt scorched; by evening it was already like drinking ice (yin bing)—an image of inner bitterness and crushing burden. “Qing” here means “in fact”: though I have the commission, in truth I have not yet truly enjoyed one proper meal.

(The following repeats the earlier passage in substance:) Usually the stove never went out; now, with much worry and little food, it is often cold. Since the commission, my heart has labored as if drinking ice. If I guard against falling into this illness even when the mission succeeds, and if failure brings punishment, that is a double calamity. To be a minister in such a state is truly unbearable. Zigao asked: What words will you teach me?—that is, how should I conduct myself in the response? “Lai” is a sentence particle.

仲尼曰天下有大戒二其一命也其一义也子之爱亲命也不可解于心臣之事君义也无适而非君也无所逃于天地之间是之谓大戒是以夫事其亲者不择地而安之孝之至也夫事其君者不择事而安之忠之盛也自事其心者哀乐不易施乎前知其不可奈何而安之若命德之至也为人臣子者固有所不得孝之至也夫事其君者不择事而安之忠之盛也自事其心者哀乐不易施乎前知其不可奈何而安之若命德之至也为人臣子者固有所不得已行事之情而忘其身何暇至于悦生而恶死夫子其行可矣此一段却是十分正当说话其论人间世至有此语岂得谓庄子为迂阔大言者大戒者大法也命得于天者子之事亲与生俱生此心岂得一日去故曰不可解义人世之当为者也臣之事君世间第一件当为之事名曰君臣则率土之滨莫非王臣故曰何适非君莫非臣子何处而可逃故曰无所逃于天地之间事亲而尽其孝则东西南北惟父母之命岂择地之安而后为之此心才主于忠则哀乐之境虽施于前而不能变易盖事有难易或有逃于天地之间事亲而尽其孝则东西南北惟父母之命岂择地之安而后为之此心才主于忠则哀乐之境虽施于前而不能变易盖事有难易或有祸福既出君命则是自家合做底事此便是天命又可奈何止得安而顺之若命顺命也能如此则为至德之士为人臣子亦看所遇如何不幸而遇其难亦所不得已但得行其事之实而已情实也言但得朴实头做前去岂得复顾其身虽其祸至于死生之异亦无可奈何夫子其行可矣者言汝只得去也夫子指叶公也
Interpretation

Confucius said: Under heaven there are two great laws that must not be violated—one is ming (fate, what heaven assigns), the other is yi (righteous duty).

Children loving their parents is ming: it is inborn; this feeling cannot be set aside for a single day—hence it is said to be “not to be released from the heart.” Ministers serving their ruler is yi: the foremost human obligation; all under heaven is the king’s land—wherever one goes one is the king’s subject; there is nowhere between heaven and earth to escape—this is called the great precept (da jie).

Therefore, one who serves parents seeks peace of mind without picking a place—that is the height of filial piety; one who serves the ruler seeks to fulfill duty without picking the task—that is the height of loyalty. In one’s own heart, when joy and sorrow come one does not change one’s measure; knowing there is no alternative yet accepting calmly, as if receiving a mandate from heaven—that is the height of virtue (de).

As minister or son, there are necessarily things one cannot refuse: only act according to the facts and do what must be done, forget self-interest—then where is room to cling to life or hate death? When Confucius said “My lord, you need only go”—here “my lord” refers to Duke Ye (Ye Gong): do what ought to be done; do not hesitate further.


Note (commentary by the author of the oral interpretation)

This passage is very plain and right-minded; it speaks of ruler and subject, father and son in worldly affairs—not empty grand talk. So one cannot say Zhuangzi only knows how to speak lofty, impractical doctrine.

Great precept (da jie) means a law that must not be broken. Ming comes from heaven and is innate; in serving parents this heart exists from birth and cannot be left for a day. Yi is the share of conduct owed in the world; serving the ruler as minister is the first thing to fulfill among human obligations. Once there are names of ruler and subject, all under heaven are subjects—hence “what place is not the ruler’s?” Once one is minister or son, where under heaven and earth can one flee?

To serve parents with full filial piety is to obey the parents’ wishes in every direction—not first to choose a “safe” place and only then be filial. Once the heart is set on loyalty, joy and sorrow before one cannot alter that resolve. Affairs may be hard or easy, or bring fortune or harm; once it is the ruler’s command, it is what one must do—this too is heavenly mandate; there is no alternative but to accept and follow. To be able to do this is to be a person of utmost de. As minister or son one must also see what one meets; if unluckily one meets hard affairs, that too is unavoidable—one only seeks to make the matter solid (qing shi, to act according to the facts, steadfastly); one cannot care only for oneself; even if disaster reaches life and death, there is still no help for it. Hence “My lord, you may go”—you have no choice but to go. Here “my lord” refers to Duke Ye.

丘请复以所闻凡交近则必相靡以信远则必忠之以言言必或之夫传两喜两怒之言天下之难者也夫两喜必多溢美之言两怒必多溢恶之言凡溢之也妄妄则其信之也莫莫则言者殃故法言曰其常情无其溢言则几乎全 此下又转一转说尽人世情状信有物以妄妄则其信之也莫莫则言者殃故法言曰其常情无其溢言则几乎全 此下又转一转说尽人世情状信有物以为信验也如符节之是也相靡相顺也近处之交接则如此若其交者远则必以言语尽其情忠尽情也然其言何自而达必有人道之然言之间其两喜两怒者最难彼以喜而来此以喜而应则其说好处多有过当故曰溢美溢过当也若彼此皆怒则其说不好处又多过当故曰溢恶才是一等过当说话必是不实故曰凡溢之妄既不实则其听之者必皆莫然而疑未能尽信莫致疑貌也才至致疑则两边之恶皆归于言之人必加之罪故曰莫等过当说话必是不实故曰凡溢之妄既不实则其听之者必皆莫然而疑未能尽信莫致疑貌也才至致疑则两边之恶皆归于言之人必加之罪故曰莫则言者殃因其奉使故以此为戒法言者古有此书也故举以为证其常情谓言之人但传其平常朴实头说话其言语过当处则不可故曰无其溢言言能如此则庶几可以自全
Interpretation

Plain-Language Interpretation

Qiu (Yan Hui) asked to go on from what he had just heard: whenever you deal with people who are close to you, you must build trust through real day-to-day contact; when you deal with people who are far apart, you must show good faith through what you say. And for speech to reach the other party, someone in the middle always has to carry it.

Words spoken when both sides are pleased, or when both are angry, are the hardest in the world to pass on faithfully. When both are pleased, the go-between tends to make the good side sound better than it is—“overflowing praise” (yimei). When both are angry, the go-between tends to make the bad side sound worse than it is—“overflowing blame” (yie). Whatever goes too far is not true; when it is not true, the hearer will not really believe it and will only grow suspicious. Once suspicion appears, the one who carried the message pays the price. So the old book Fayan says: pass on only the ordinary, honest part of what each side means; do not pass on language that is inflated or overheated—then the messenger has a fair chance of coming through unscathed.


Background

This comes from oral commentary (kouyi) related to the Zhuangzi. It is about the person stuck in the middle who relays messages: those nearby trust through shared living; those at a distance trust through words; and words always pass through someone else. When both sides are elated or both are furious, the go-between easily “fills out” the joy or the anger; the listener does not believe, and trouble lands on the messenger. Hence the warning to “transmit the usual truth, not overflow language”—a reminder not to embellish when repeating what others said, so as not to fail both parties and bring harm on oneself.

且以巧斗力者始乎阳常卒乎阴泰至则多奇巧以礼饮酒者始乎治常卒乎乱泰至则多奇乐凡事亦然始乎谅常卒乎鄙其作始也简其将毕也必巨言者风波也行者实丧也夫风波易以动实丧易以危故忿设无由巧言偏辞兽死不择音气息茀然于是并生心厉克核太至则必有不肖之心应之而不知其然也苟为不知其然也孰知其所终
Interpretation

People who rely on cunning and brute force to contend with others often begin by talking as if everything were open and fair, yet they frequently end in secret scheming; once they go too far, every sort of crooked trick and odd expedient comes out.

Those who drink according to ritual still keep order at first, but toward the end the gathering often dissolves into disorder; once the wine has gone too far, strange music and improper amusements multiply.

Most affairs follow this pattern: at the outset people still speak of good faith, but in the end things often turn coarse and petty; what began simply, as it nears completion, is inflated into something vast and showy.

Words are like wind on water—stir them and everything moves; when action loses solid sincerity, danger is close. That is why anger flares without clear cause, and polished speech is so often one-sided argument dressed as truth.

A dying beast no longer cares whether its cry is pleasing; its breath breaks up in haste, and at that moment the heart easily fills with spite and harshness together. When ritual and rule are pressed too tight and pushed too far, the heart answers with thoughts that do not fit what the rites were meant to cultivate—and the person may not see how it happened. If one does not even grasp how it happened, who can say how far things will run before they stop?

既说了言却又引喻世间此之事句句皆是世情此皆庄子妙处以巧斗力今之戏相抟者阳喜也阴恶也其始等闲格手只是戏剧其终常至于实实争打盖其戏太甚则句句皆是世情此皆庄子妙处以巧斗力今之戏相抟者阳喜也阴恶也其始等闲格手只是戏剧其终常至于实实争打盖其戏太甚则多有过当用巧处奇异也泰至过当也相招而饮皆以礼也始初筵秩秩之时也乱载号载呶之时也盖饮酒至于过当则其为乐也多异常故或成争竞也凡事亦然者言人世他事亦常如此也谅信也始者之相与同为一事未尝不诚实相信及至其后鄙诈生焉此又一事也始者之有所作为止为苟简之谋弄到末后或成一件大事此以上只泛说世间又拈起个言行来盖人世之相与涉言语则风波之所由起风行波上虚而纷乱之意才说个行字便有名有迹有名则丧实矣风波易以动者言其易至于纷纷而不已也实丧易以危者言实不副名或成患害也无由无端也忿怒之言多是造设初无端由故曰忿设无由偏辞一偏之见也花巧言语只是说得一偏故曰巧言偏辞兽死不择音言兽死之时其声音又故曰忿设无由偏辞一偏之见也花巧言语只是说得一偏故曰巧言偏辞兽死不择音言兽死之时其声音又何所择此譬喻忿设巧言之人才至于争竞则言语之出皆不暇简择今谚所谓相骂无好语是也气息茀然者怒也厉狼戾也怒气既起则狼戾之心并生我既如此则其应我者以我之克核大至必生不肖之心或时至于相戕相贼亦皆为怒所使而不知其然矣既为怒所使而不自知又何暇计其终自此以上皆言世情或因好成恶故牵引说至此尔
Interpretation

This passage can be summarized as follows.

Zhuangzi uses both yuyan—indirect, admonitory speech that does not speak straight—and everyday affairs as analogies; every line stays close to human feeling. That is his usual way of writing.

Competing in skill—like wrestling or grappling today: outwardly cheerful, inwardly not necessarily so. At first they only spar casually, as play; by the end it often turns into real fighting and grabbing. When the play goes too far, it easily crosses the line; when that crossing reaches an extreme, the moves become strange and excessive (“tai” means going too far).

Agreeing to drink together—at first they still observe ritual and keep seats in order; when they drink to excess, there is shouting and chaos. When drinking goes wrong, pleasure often sours and even turns into quarrels. Much else in the world works the same way.

From these general examples he turns to “words” and “conduct”—once people deal with each other through speech, trouble stirs. “Wind on the waves” means floating and disorderly. As soon as one speaks of “conduct,” there are reputation and traces; once there is a name, the reality is lost. When reality is lost, harm is easy to invite. “Wu you” means without cause. Words spoken in anger are mostly improvised on the spot; at first there is no root, hence “anger’s inventions have no cause.” “Pian ci” is one-sided speech; clever talk often takes only one side, hence “clever words are one-sided speech.” “When a beast is about to die, it does not choose its cries”: as an animal nears death, its cries no longer heed propriety—a image for people who, heated in dispute, no longer guard their words; as the proverb says, “when people curse each other, there are no kind words.”

Once anger rises—“qi xi fu ran” is anger; “li” and “lang li” are fierceness and savagery. When anger comes up, a savage heart follows. If I treat others this way, they often respond with an unworthy heart; sometimes it goes as far as mutual injury and harm—and all of it is driven by anger, without the person noticing. Once one is driven by anger without knowing it, how can one still think of consequences?

All of the above describes worldly feeling: because liking can turn into disliking, the discussion moves through examples of anger, speech, drinking, and wrestling.

故法言曰无迁令无劝成过度益也迁令劝成殆事美成在久恶成不及改可不慎与且夫乘物以游心托不得已以养中至矣何作为报也莫若为致命此其难者到此又引古书之言就奉使事上结令君命也无迁已以养中至矣何作为报也莫若为致命此其难者到此又引古书之言就奉使事上结令君命也无迁移其令即所谓其常情也若受其命令而私欲图成或至迁改其说则不可事之成不成亦听其自然不可强欲其成故曰无劝成益求多也才于平常心上起个过当之念便是有求益之心此便不可过度者过其常度即过当也迁令劝成皆是过度之念则其谋事也必危故曰殆事人之相与要好极难初非一日可成必须悠久而后定故曰美成在久一言之不相投一事之不相顺有不转步而便成恶者故曰恶成不及改此意盖谓要相恶甚易要相好甚难所以尤当慎也我若乘事物之自然而游其心于自然托不得已而应之意以养其中心则此为极至矣又何必有所作为而后归报邪报反命也作为过度以求益也致命者言以真实而致君命于卫也言汝之行也莫若只以真实致其君之命而已不可过为思虑论其成与不成也即此真实致命便是难能之事汝须要能言汝之行也莫若只以真实致其君之命而已不可过为思虑论其成与不成也即此真实致命便是难能之事汝须要能尽此方可就此又着一难字盖谓处此亦难矣所谓游于彀中中央者中地也此篇名以人间世者正言处世之难也看这一段曲尽世情非庄子性地通融何以尽此曲折说者以庄老只见得道心惟微一截无人心惟危一截此等议论果为如何但读其书未子细尔
Interpretation

The ancients put it this way: Do not on your own initiative alter the lord’s command, and do not force affairs to completion—going beyond your role and chasing extra advantage often backfires. Changing what you say or pushing hard to “make it happen” turns the mission risky. Good relations take time to settle; bad ones flare up quickly and are hard to undo in time—so caution matters all the more.

Getting along with people is extremely hard; ruining rapport is easy. Hence one must not act lightly.

If you follow things as they naturally are and let the heart move freely within that, responding only from what you cannot but do, and thereby nurture inner centeredness, you have already reached the utmost. Why do more for the sake of extra reward? Better to carry the lord’s mandate to Wei as it truly is—this “delivering your life with sincerity” is itself a hard thing. Here another “hard” is added: even that step is not easy.

Not altering the command means not changing your message because of private desire; if, once entrusted, you are eager for success and revise your words, that will not do. Whether the affair succeeds, let it be—do not force it. That is not forcing completion. In ordinary life, the slightest thought of “I should get a bit more” is the mind of seeking gain—already excess (overstepping what is fitting). Altering the command and forcing completion are both excess; scheming in that way is dangerous, hence endangering the affair.

What is finely made lasts long: mutual regard needs months and years to fix. What turns bad may outrun correction: one harsh word or one snag, and enmity can form at once—and be hard to reverse quickly.

If I ride the natural course of things to set the heart free, and rely on what is unavoidable to nurture centeredness, that is enough—why act further for repayment? Repayment here means fulfilling the mandate and returning. Acting means excessive seeking of benefit. Delivering one’s life means bringing the lord’s mandate to Wei with truth and without pretense. On this journey, nothing surpasses simply delivering that mandate honestly and not over-calculating success or failure—to manage that is already difficult; and here “difficult” is stressed again: even holding to this is hard.

Wandering in the middle ground: gou means the middle region. This chapter is titled Human World (Renjian shi)—it speaks precisely of the difficulty of living among others.

Read this passage and it exhausts the twists of worldly feeling; without Zhuangzi’s thoroughly open heart, it would be hard to unfold such complexity. Some say Zhuangzi and Laozi see only that “the mind of Dao is subtle” and miss that “the human mind is perilous”—judgments of that sort differ among readers; yet if one reads without savoring the text, it is easy to dismiss it in that broad way.

颜阖将卫灵公太子而问于蘧伯玉曰有人于此其德天杀与之为无方则危吾国与之为有方则危吾身其知适足以知人之过而不知其所以过若然者吾奈之何蘧伯玉曰善哉问乎戒之慎之正汝身哉形莫若就心莫若和虽然之二身其知适足以知人之过而不知其所以过若然者吾奈之何蘧伯玉曰善哉问乎戒之慎之正汝身哉形莫若就心莫若和虽然之二者有患就不欲入和不欲出形就而入且为颠为灭为崩为蹶心和而出且为声为名为妖为孽彼且为婴儿亦与之为婴儿彼且为无町畦亦与之为无町畦彼且为无崖亦与之为无崖达之入于无疵
Interpretation

Yan He was about to become tutor to the crown prince of Duke Ling of Wei. He asked Qu Boyu for advice: “There is a man who is violent and bloodthirsty by nature. If I leave him unchecked and set no rules, I will harm the state; if I discipline him strictly and impose rules, I will harm myself. His cleverness is only enough to spot others’ faults, yet he does not understand why people err. When faced with this, what should I do?”

Qu Boyu said: “Well asked! Be alert and cautious, and first set yourself straight. Outwardly, it is best to go along with him; inwardly, it is best to keep harmony. Even so, both approaches still carry risk: go along outwardly, but do not truly join his wrongdoing; keep harmony inwardly, but do not parade all your views. If you only follow him on the surface yet must stay close to him, you may meet overturning, ruin, collapse, and a fall; if you only keep inner harmony yet must show yourself, you may turn into empty display, rivalry for fame, odd behavior, and bringing disaster on yourself. If he acts like an infant, you go along and seem infant-like too; if he has no bounds and acts recklessly, you go along without drawing hard lines (but this is not truly sharing his evil); if he knows no limit, you go along without forcing a stop. Only when you can grasp these measures can you enter ‘wu ci’—no inviting disaster, no leaving a handle against you, and no truly corrupting yourself.”

颜阖将为太子之而求教于伯玉有人于此者指太子也其德天杀犹言天夺其鉴也杀犹销铄也陨霜杀草之杀言其德性为造物所销铄也无方无法度也言彼为败度败德之事纵犹言天夺其鉴也杀犹销铄也陨霜杀草之杀言其德性为造物所销铄也无方无法度也言彼为败度败德之事纵而不问则将来必危吾国若欲救正之则其祸必先及我太子之智能知人之过而自为过恶则不知改奈之何者吾无如之何也正汝身者言且就自家身上理防起就从也随顺之也和调和也诱导之也外为恭敬随顺之形而内则尽我调和诱导之心故曰形莫若就心莫若和莫若者言求其方法无出于此也虽然一转又妙之二者和与就二者也随顺而与之为一则是就而入也有诱导之心而圭角稍露则是和而出也就而至于入则和自家都放倒了故曰为颠为灭为崩为蹶和而至于声名出则彼必忌害必成殃祸故曰为声为名为妖为孽此处文最奇婴儿者如无知小儿然也无町畦而出也就而至于入则和自家都放倒了故曰为颠为灭为崩为蹶和而至于声名出则彼必忌害必成殃祸故曰为声为名为妖为孽此处文最奇婴儿者如无知小儿然也无町畦者无畔岸也言其跌荡而无绳准也无崖者无涯际也言为事不思到尽处如何也婴儿无町畦无崖皆是形容无知妄为之人彼方如此无知如此妄为我且顺之故曰亦与之到其有可觉悟处就加化使之跃然醒悟或可以入无疵之地达之者觉悟之也无疵者无过也昔艾轩于此尝言莆中旧有人父死不葬荡其田业以恣所欲田且尽亲戚悯之敛钱以给其葬彼阳相许又以其钱行前所为众亲皆忿之有族人焉出而与之游任其所为一夕酣饮至于极人父死不葬荡其田业以恣所欲田且尽亲戚悯之敛钱以给其葬彼阳相许又以其钱行前所为众亲皆忿之有族人焉出而与之游任其所为一夕酣饮至于极欢抚其背曰人不堪其忧回也不改其乐其人翻然而悟恸哭而归遂葬其父卒为善人正此处道理
Interpretation

Plain-Language Interpretation

Yan He was about to become tutor to the crown prince and sought advice from Qu Boyu. Qu Boyu said: This man (the crown prince) is like someone whose virtue has lost its clear mirror—sha here means to wear away or dissolve, as autumn frost kills grass and trees; his moral nature has been eroded by the workings of fate. He acts without measure, devoted to breaking rules and corrupting conduct, yet is left unchecked; the state will surely be endangered. If you try to set him straight, disaster will strike you first. The crown prince is clever: he can see others’ faults but does not notice or correct his own—you cannot manage him by ordinary means.

Straighten yourself first: Begin with your own person. Jiu means to go along with; he means to harmonize and gently lead. Outwardly show deferential compliance; inwardly do your utmost to harmonize and guide. Hence the saying: outwardly, nothing beats going along; inwardly, nothing beats harmonizing—moruo means there is no better method than this.

Yet there is a deeper layer: he and jiu are two different things. Merging entirely through blind compliance is jiu, sinking in deep; having a guiding intent while your edges show outward is he, holding back. Jiu pushed to the extreme—you lose your own footing—hence overturning, extinction, collapse, and stumbling; he pushed until your name spreads—the other party will resent you and calamity follows—hence becoming noise, reputation, strangeness, and harm. This passage is extraordinarily subtle.

“Infant”: Like an ignorant child. Wu tingqi is having no boundaries; wu ya is having no limit—describing someone who acts without thought for consequences, reckless. The infant’s wu tingqi and wu ya both depict that kind of ignorant, reckless person. Since he is so ignorant and so reckless, you temporarily go along with him—hence yi yu zhi, join him in letting him run wild. When he shows the slightest opening for insight, add a touch of guidance so he may suddenly awaken—perhaps then he can reach the state of wu ci. Da means awakening; wu ci means without fault.

Aixuan (Lin Aixuan) once cited a Putian example: Someone’s father died and he would not bury him; he squandered the family land and indulged his desires until the estate was nearly gone. Relatives pooled money to help him bury his father; he agreed on the surface, but once he had the money he behaved as before, and the kin grew angry. One clansman went to associate with him and let him do as he pleased. One night, after drinking to the height of merriment, the clansman clapped him on the back and said: “Others cannot bear such distress, yet Hui did not change his joy.” The man suddenly came to himself, wept his way home, buried his father, and in the end became a good man. That is exactly the principle taught here.

汝不知夫螳螂乎怒其臂以当车辙不知其不胜任也是其才之美者也戒之慎之积伐而美者以犯之几矣汝不知夫养虎者乎不敢以生物与之为其杀之之怒也不敢以全物与之为其决之之怒也时其饥饱达其怒心虎之与人异而媚养已者顺也故其杀者逆也夫爱马者以筐盛矢以蜃盛溺适有蚊防仆缘而拊之不时则缺衔毁首碎不敢以全物与之为其决之之怒也时其饥饱达其怒心虎之与人异而媚养已者顺也故其杀者逆也夫爱马者以筐盛矢以蜃盛溺适有蚊防仆缘而拊之不时则缺衔毁首碎胸意有所至而爱有所亡可不慎邪
Interpretation

Have you never heard of the mantis? It raises its forelegs in anger to block a chariot wheel, not knowing its strength is nowhere near enough—that is exactly the kind of trouble that comes from thinking one’s own abilities are great. Take warning: those who always parade their talent and strong points and use them to butt against power are not far from disaster.

Have you never heard how people who raise tigers behave? They dare not feed them live prey, for fear of stirring up their killing nature when they pounce; they dare not toss them a whole carcass either, for fear of the same rage when the tiger tears it apart. They feed according to its hunger and fullness and learn when it is about to turn fierce. Tigers and humans are not of the same kind, yet once habituated and when they know how to please, they submit; but once they begin to kill, they often turn against the one who raised them.

Then there are those who love horses: they use bamboo baskets for droppings and shells for urine. If a mosquito or gadfly happens to land on the horse and you reach out to swat it at the wrong moment, the horse may break the bit, smash its head, or shatter its chest and ribs—the heart meant love, yet love is lost. Can one fail to be cautious?

此下又说几个譬喻螳螂恃其才之美欲以其臂当车辙此喻小才自矜以当大事鲜不败者积屡也伐夸也几危也屡夸其才美以犯世之忌者必危其身故曰积伐而美者以犯之几矣虎之性易怒故养之者必调和去其怒心以虎而于养已者亦有媚爱之意此无他只是顺之而已若逆之则必为所伤矣故曰其杀者逆也筐竹器也蜃灰泥之器也以此盛其屎溺可谓爱之忽有蚊防聚于其身不能随时抟拊而去之则其马必至决去衔勒毁碎其身首上辔络月题之此其中心之怒忽然而至则蜃灰泥之器也以此盛其屎溺可谓爱之忽有蚊防聚于其身不能随时抟拊而去之则其马必至决去衔勒毁碎其身首上辔络月题之此其中心之怒忽然而至则前日之爱皆忘之矣仆缘者仆仆然缘聚也亡与忘同此盖美成在久恶成不及改之意人之相处有终身从游而一语至于为仇者此言处世之难也看叶公子高与颜阖二段便见此篇名作人间世分晓
Interpretation

Plain-Language Reading

Several more analogies are used below to explain the point.

The mantis blocking the chariot wheel: The mantis thinks its body is handsome and its skills considerable, and tries to stop the wheel with its forelegs. This stands for someone whose talent is small yet who rates himself highly and takes on great tasks—such people rarely avoid failure. “Repeated boasting” means boasting again and again; “nearly in danger” means coming close to harm. Someone who keeps flaunting his looks and ability and does what the world forbids will soon bring disaster on himself—hence the line: those who boast of their beauty and violate taboos are in danger.

Nurturing a tiger: A tiger is naturally quick to anger; whoever raises one must soften its temper and remove its rage. A tiger will also grow fond of and attached to its keeper. There is no secret beyond going with its nature; go against it and you will surely be hurt. Hence: those killed by tigers are people who went against the tiger’s nature.

Loving a horse and being hurt: Using bamboo baskets and mud-lined vessels for the horse’s dung and urine shows great care for the horse. If gnats and flies settle on the horse and you do not brush them off in time, the horse may break its reins and smash the bridle, headstall, and forehead ornaments. Then anger flares up and all that earlier “love” is forgotten.

“Pupu” and gathering by affinity: “Pupu” (going along in haste) and gathering by affinity mean the same as “perishing” and “forgetting.” The idea is roughly this: good things need time to last; when something bad breaks out, it is too late to fix and one can only let go. Among people, some keep company for a lifetime yet turn into enemies over a single remark—that is how hard it is to get along in the world.

Read the passages about Lord Gao of Ye and Yan He, and you will see why the chapter Ren Jian Shi (The Human World) was written and what its main theme is.

匠石之齐至乎曲辕见栎社树其大蔽牛絜之百围其高临山十仞而后有枝其可以为舟者旁十数观者如市匠伯不顾遂行不辍弟子厌观之走及匠石曰自吾执斧斤以随夫子未尝见材如此其美也先生不肯视行不辍何邪曰已矣勿言之矣散木也以为舟则沈以为棺椁则速腐以为器则速毁以为门户则液樠以为树则蠧是不材之木也无所可用故能若是之寿匠石归栎社见梦曰汝将恶乎则沈以为棺椁则速腐以为器则速毁以为门户则液樠以为树则蠧是不材之木也无所可用故能若是之寿匠石归栎社见梦曰汝将恶乎比予哉若将比予于文木邪夫柤梨橘柚果蓏之属实熟则剥则辱大枝折小枝泄此其以能苦其生者也故不终其天年而中道夭自掊击于世俗者也物莫不若是且予求无所可用久矣几死乃今得之为予大用使予也而有用且得有此大也邪且也若与予也皆物也奈何哉其相物也而几死之散人又恶知散木
Interpretation

Zhuangzi Kouyi (Oral Exposition on the Zhuangzi) · Carpenter Shi and the Oak of the Shetu Shrine

Carpenter Shi, a craftsman who made his living by hewing timber, went to Quyuan in the state of Qi. There he saw an oak that served as the tree of the local earth-god shrine—a sacred tree of oak wood on which the villagers relied when worshipping the god of the soil. The trunk was so massive that several oxen could shelter beneath it; measured around, it was a hundred spans in girth; it towered almost to the mountaintop, and only at a height of ten ren (each ren is about eight feet, so ten ren is roughly eighty feet) did branches begin to spread. From its sides one could take more than ten pieces of timber stout enough to build boats. The crowd of onlookers was as dense as at a market fair.

Carpenter Shi did not so much as glance at it. He walked straight on without slowing his step.

When his disciples had seen enough, they caught up and asked, “We have followed you with our axes for a long time, and we have never seen wood this fine. You would not even look at it, and kept walking—why?”

Carpenter Shi said, “Enough—say no more about it. This is useless wood (sanmu, timber that is no good for any purpose). Use it for a boat and the boat sinks; for a coffin and it rots quickly; for utensils and they break soon; for doors and windows and the sap runs; for pillars and worms eat them. This is wood of no worth (bucai zhi mu, a tree with no “timber-use”), good for nothing at all—so it has been able to live so long.”

After Carpenter Shi returned home, the oak of the shrine appeared to him in a dream and said, “What do you compare me with? Do you compare me with those ornamental, fruit-bearing trees (wenmu, useful trees with patterned grain and harvestable fruit)—such as zha, pear, orange, and pomelo? When their fruit ripens, it is picked; once picked, they are shamed and abused—large limbs are broken off, small branches torn away. It is precisely because they are “useful” that they torment themselves all their lives; they cannot live out their full span but die halfway, all battered by the world. Is it not so for all things? Moreover, I have long pursued ‘being useless for everything’; I almost died, and only now have I preserved myself. You take me to be greatly useful—do you think I have lived this long because I am useful? Besides, you and I are both things—why must you be right and I be wrong? You are a useless man (sanren, one who is no good by worldly standards, who does not fit conventional measures of worth)—how could you understand the principle of useless wood (sanmu)?”

曲辕山名也栎木名也社之中有此栎木也论语曰夏后氏以松周人以栗古者社中皆必以大木为主挈之以手量之也两手合而围之为一围百之中有此栎木也论语曰夏后氏以松周人以栗古者社中皆必以大木为主挈之以手量之也两手合而围之为一围百围大也十仞高也枝可为舟则其身可知矣厌观者言观至于厌足而后已也散木者言无用散弃之木也液樠其液出而樠樠然也树柱也立木以为柱故曰树文木者言木之可观而可为用者也栎社见于匠石之梦曰汝以我为散木则是以文木而比量我也柦梨橘柚果蓏皆文木之可食者故为人摧折是以其能而害其生能者可用之才也吾之求无所用久矣而汝乃今知之几死骂匠石之言果蓏皆文木之可食者故为人摧折是以其能而害其生能者可用之才也吾之求无所用久矣而汝乃今知之几死骂匠石之言也犹今人骂人以半死汉也为予大用者言我之无用乃我之大用所以全其生也我若有用则人伐之久矣又安能至此大乎且也只是且字之意添个也字若与予皆物者匠石虽人我虽栎树皆天地间一物汝何独以物相讥故曰若与予也皆物也奈何哉其相物也一句之中四个也字一个哉字此皆庄子文奇处汝亦无用之人何讥我无用之木故曰几死之散人又恶知散木
Interpretation

“Quyuan” is the name of a mountain; “li” (cork oak) is the name of a tree. At the center of the community altar (she) stood just such a great cork oak. The Analects says that in the Xia dynasty they used pine for the she tree and in the Zhou they used chestnut; in ancient times a large tree had to be chosen in the she grove as the main tree to which the she spirit attached. Measuring the trunk with the arms, one full wrap counts as “one girth”; among trees that could be girth-measured at a hundred wraps was this cork oak. It was about ten ren high; the branches were thick enough to serve as boat timbers, so one can imagine how massive the trunk was. “Those who tire of looking” means people who come to look again and again and only leave when they have seen their fill.

“Sanmu” (scatter tree) means a tree with no use, abandoned and neglected. Its sap oozed and dripped steadily. “Shuzhu” (tree pillar) means a piece of wood set upright in the ground as a pillar—hence “tree.” “Wenmu” (patterned/cultivated tree) means a tree that looks fine and can be put to use. The she oak appeared in Carpenter Shi’s dream and said to him: You treat me as sanmu because you measure me by the standard of wenmu. The fruits of catalpa, pear, orange, and pomelo are all edible wenmu, so people break branches to pick them—precisely because they are “useful,” they harm themselves. “Neng” means the capacity to be taken and used. The oak said: I have pursued “nowhere to be used” for a long time; only now do you understand. It also scolds Carpenter Shi as “ji si” (almost dead)—like people today who curse someone as “half-dead.”

“For me, great use lies in this” means that for me, being useless is precisely great use, and so I can preserve my life. If I were truly useful, I would have been cut down long ago—how could I have grown this huge? Here “qie” is only a modal “qie,” with an extra “ye” at the end of the sentence.

“If you and I are both things (wu)”: Carpenter Shi is a person and the oak is a tree; both are things in heaven and earth—why do you single me out and mock me with the word “thing”? So it says: you and I are both wu. Why must we treat each other with the eye of “things”? Using four “ye” and one “zai” in one sentence is a hallmark of Zhuangzi’s extraordinary prose. You too are a “sanren who almost died” (a useless person who barely survived)—how could you understand the principle of sanmu?

匠石觉而诊其梦弟子曰趣取无用则为社何邪曰密若无言彼亦直寄焉以为不知巳者诟厉也不为社者且几有翦乎且也彼其所保与众异而以义誉之不亦远乎 诊占也弟子闻其梦中之言乃曰此木之志趣若取于无用则何必用而为社密者犹言汝闭几有翦乎且也彼其所保与众异而以义誉之不亦远乎 诊占也弟子闻其梦中之言乃曰此木之志趣若取于无用则何必用而为社密者犹言汝闭口勿言也彼指栎也其所以为社者亦直寄寓而已岂料今日又为汝不知己之人以为社而诟厉之诟骂厉责辱也使其纵不为社亦岂有人翦伐之彼之所保自与众人不同而汝乃以义理求其毁誉相去远矣所保犹言所守也且几有翦乎此几字与殆字同意
Interpretation

Plain reading

After Carpenter Shi woke, he explained the dream to his disciple. The disciple said, “That tree was set on being ‘useless’—so why did it still need people to spare it and make it the village altar tree?”

Shi said, “Quiet—don’t talk nonsense.”

Serving as the village altar tree was only a place to lodge itself; it never expected that people who did not understand it would treat it as an altar tree and revile and shame it. Even if it had not been an altar tree, how would it have been almost cut down? The way it kept to was always unlike everyone else’s, yet you judge its praise and blame with moral reasoning—that is already far from what it meant. “What it holds to” (suobao) is what it steadfastly preserves. In “and how could it almost be cut?” (qie ji you jian hu), ji is close in meaning to dai (on the brink, nearly).

南伯子綦游乎商之丘见大木焉有异结驷千乘将芘其所藾子綦曰此何木也哉此必有异材夫仰而视其细枝则拳曲而不可以为栋梁俯而视其大根则轴解而不可以为棺椁咶其叶则口烂而为伤嗅之则使人狂酲三日而不已子綦曰此果不材之木也以至于此其大也嗟乎神人以此不材宋有荆氏者宜楸柏桑其拱把而上者求狙不已子綦曰此果不材之木也以至于此其大也嗟乎神人以此不材宋有荆氏者宜楸柏桑其拱把而上者求狙猴之杙者斩之三围四围求高名之丽者斩之七围八围贵人富商之家求椫傍者斩之故未终其天年而中道夭于斧斤此材之患也故解之以牛之白颡者与豚之亢鼻者与人有痔病者不可以适河此皆巫祝以知之矣所以为不祥也此乃神人之所以为大祥也
Interpretation

Nanbo Ziqi was strolling at Mount Shang when he saw an extraordinarily shaped tree. Several carriages could park side by side under it for shade. Ziqi said, “What kind of tree is this? It must have wood of some special quality.” He looked up at the fine branches—they were twisted and crooked, unfit for beams and rafters. He looked down at the trunk—it was hollow and split like a loose axle hub, useless for coffin boards. Lick a leaf and your mouth festers; smell it and you feel drunk for three days without waking.

Ziqi said, “This tree has grown so large precisely because its wood is ‘useless.’ Ah—it is by such ‘uselessness’ that the divine person (shenren) also preserves himself.”

In the state of Song, a family named Jing planted catalpa, cypress, and mulberry. When trunks were as thick as an arm-span, they were cut down to tether monkeys; at three or four arm-spans, they were cut for coffins of those who chase fame; at seven or eight arm-spans, they were cut for the coffins of the rich and noble. So before living out their full span, they were felled mid-life by the axe—such is the disaster of timber that is “useful for material.”

Therefore at the xie sacrifice, oxen with white foreheads, pigs with turned-up snouts, and people with hemorrhoids are not offered to the river—the shaman-priests all know this and call it “inauspicious.” In the eyes of the divine person, however, this is precisely great auspiciousness.

此段与前段同但就中又防绎数句别说话见大木焉有异者言其大有异于寻常也虽有千乘之驷马于此树之下而求其所防藾亦能芘之故曰将芘其所藾芘自我芘物也藾彼求防于我也轴解不实也如今芋茎然咶食纸反以舌咶之则烂人之口以鼻嗅之则着人如醉言其臭也此木惟其不才所以能全其生至于如此其大古之神人所以实也如今芋茎然咶食纸反以舌咶之则烂人之口以鼻嗅之则着人如醉言其臭也此木惟其不才所以能全其生至于如此其大古之神人所以全其生者亦以此不才而已故曰神人以此不才嗟乎叹美而言之也
Interpretation

This passage continues the same theme as the previous one, with a few sentences added in the middle to explain it from another angle.

The text describes seeing an exceptionally large tree, so big that it is unlike ordinary trees. Even if a column of a thousand chariots and horses took shelter under it from rain and sun, its canopy would still cover them all—so in the line from the classic jiang bi qi suo dai, bi means to shelter or shield from above, and dai means to come to me seeking protection.

It also says this tree is hollow in the middle, not solid, like taro stems. If you lick it as if it were paper, your tongue will rot; if you smell it with your nose, you will feel as if drunk—that is a way of saying its odor is extremely foul.

Precisely because it has little “use” and does not count as “timber”, this tree can preserve its life and grow to such enormous size. What the ancients called shenren (spiritual or perfected persons) who can preserve themselves also rely on this kind of “bu cai” (lack of useful talent or timber-worthiness)—not relying on talent or showing off ability, so they can avoid disaster and endure. So it is said that the shenren too depend on this “bu cai.” “Jie hu” is an exclamation of sighing or admiration.


Background: This is the great useless tree parable from Zhuangzi: because the tree is “not timber,” no one fells it and it can live out its natural span; if people learn from the shenren, showing less edge and not being useful everywhere, they can instead preserve the body. Kouyi is later commentary that explains Zhuangzi line by line in plain language, which is why it breaks down readings such as zhou jie, bi, and dai.

荆氏地名也楸柏桑三者可用之木也前言可食之木此言可用之木宜地气所宜也杙桩也丽屋栋也高名大家也高明之家瞰其室二字本同但明字音同而字异耳禅傍为棺用也言此地所宜之木或拱把而见伐或三围四围而见伐或八围七围而见伐言不可得而留惟其有可用所以自祸如此解古巫祝者书名也解之中有曰牛白颡者豚额折而此地所宜之木或拱把而见伐或三围四围而见伐或八围七围而见伐言不可得而留惟其有可用所以自祸如此解古巫祝者书名也解之中有曰牛白颡者豚额折而鼻高者皆不可以祭河古者或以人祭河如西门豹之事故添痔病一句庄子好奇专要添此等说话适者往也言不可以之往祭于河也此三者之不可用巫祝之人皆以为不祥而不知惟其不祥所以免杀身之祸其在神人观之则此不祥乃大祥也凡此二段皆言处世之难若求以自见于世必招祸患故以此譬之
Interpretation

Plain-language reading of this passage from the Oral Exposition on the Zhuangzi

“Jing” is a place name. The qi, cypress, and mulberry are all kinds of timber that are “useful”—the earlier discussion concerned trees good for food; here the topic is trees good for practical use. All of them are what the local soil and climate suit best.

“Yi” is a wooden stake; “li” is a ridgepole or beam used in building a house; “gao” denotes a well-known great household. “House of rank and renown” (gaoming zhi jia) literally suggests high standing and a shining lineage. Some commentators note that “gao” and “ming” are close in meaning and only differ in pronunciation and written form. There is also “chan” (the catalpa), often used as side boards alongside a coffin. The overall point is that trees well suited to that region—whether small enough to span in one’s arms or large enough to measure three or four, or seven or eight arm-spans around—cannot escape being cut down. It is not that you can keep them if you wish; precisely because they are “useful,” they invite this kind of harm.

Texts on divination and ritual used by shamans and scribes (works in the tradition of the Jie, and the like) say that an ox with a white forehead, or a pig with a broken forehead and an upturned snout, must not be offered to the river. In antiquity there was also the evil custom of human sacrifice to rivers—events such as Ximen Bao’s abolition of “the River Lord’s bride” in the Warring States period. Zhuangzi therefore deliberately adds remarks about “hemorrhoids” and the like; he loves startling turns of phrase and often piles on such details. “Shi” means “to go” or “to proceed”—these things simply cannot be led off to the river as offerings.

In the eyes of shamans and scribes, an ox with a white forehead, a pig with a broken forehead, or a person afflicted with hemorrhoids counts as “inauspicious.” They do not realize that it is precisely this inauspiciousness that spares them from slaughter. From the perspective of the shenren—the person who has attained the Way—such inauspiciousness is in fact great good fortune.

The two long sections above both speak to how hard it is to get by in the world: wanting to stand out and make oneself conspicuous often brings disaster. Zhuangzi uses trees cut down because they are useful, and sacrificial victims spared because they are “inauspicious,” as images for this lesson.

支离疏者颐于齐肩高于顶防撮指天五管在上两髀为胁挫针治繲足以糊口鼓防播精足以食十人上征武士则支离攘臂于其间上有大役则支离以有常疾不受功上与病者粟则受三钟与十束薪夫支离其形者犹针治繲足以糊口鼓防播精足以食十人上征武士则支离攘臂于其间上有大役则支离以有常疾不受功上与病者粟则受三钟与十束薪夫支离其形者犹足以养其身终其天年又况支离其德者乎支离身体无收拾之貌疏其名也颐下而至脐其身曲也肩反出于顶上防撮椎髻也五脏之管皆属于背背曲则管向上也两髀腿两边也背曲身下则髀为其胁也此形容一废疾之人尔挫针缝衣也治繲浣衣也以此为糊口之计鼓防以箕簸米也播去其粗而得精米故曰播精足以食十人言其速也征召武士选战者也攘臂于其间言选择不及已也大役工役也不受功不以此事责之也功如左氏晋人城杞赋功于诸侯战役速也征召武士选战者也攘臂于其间言选择不及已也大役工役也不受功不以此事责之也功如左氏晋人城杞赋功于诸侯战役之事既皆得免而又以病得粟与薪此亦以不才自全之意支离其德言至人之德亦如此支离者以无用为大用也此与不才之木亦同意
Interpretation

Plain-Language Reading of Zhuangzi Kouyi (Oral Exposition of Zhuangzi)

Zhilishu (“Limb-Scattered and Sparse”—a personal name suggesting a body broken apart and loosely arranged) had his chin hanging down to his navel, his shoulders arched higher than the crown of his head, his hair bound in a topknot pointing skyward, the openings of his five viscera all facing upward, and his two thighs pressed together like ribs. He made a living mending and washing clothes, and by winnowing rice—sifting away the chaff and keeping the fine grain—he could produce enough polished rice for ten people to eat. When the state conscripted warriors, he could wave his arms in the crowd and no one would bother with him; when there was major corvée labor, he was exempt because of chronic illness; when the state gave relief to the sick, he could still receive three zhong of grain and ten bundles of firewood.

Plain-language glosses and meaning:

Zhi li means a body in scattered, irregular pieces without a tidy form; Shu is his given name. Yi is the chin; when it reaches below the navel, the torso is bent extremely. Shoulders higher than the crown means the shoulders are hunched so they rise above the head. Fang cuo is a chignon—the hair gathered on top of the head. The five openings upward: the orifices of the five viscera (eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and so on) normally belong to the back; when the back is bent, those openings turn upward. Two bi like ribs: bi is the thigh; with the back bent and the lower body contracted, the thighs lie side by side like the rib cage. The passage is painting a person with severe deformity.

Cuo zhen zhi xie is sewing and laundering clothes—he lived on that trade. Gu fang bo jing is using a winnowing basket to shake the rice, screening out coarse bran and keeping fine grain—hence “bo jing”; that it was enough for ten people means he worked very quickly. Summoning warriors means recruiting soldiers and picking men for battle; rang bi yu qi jian—raising his arm among them—still never got him chosen.

Major corvée is large-scale forced labor; bu shou gong means he was not assigned work. Gong here is like the Zuo Zhuan phrase about Jin building the walls of Qi and “levying gong on the feudal lords”—assignment to labor and public works.

For conscripting warriors and major corvée, he slipped through because of his “illness”; the grain and firewood meant for the sick he received by virtue of his “lack of talent”—his uselessness preserved him.

Someone who scatters his form (zhi li qi xing) can still nourish himself to the end and live out his natural span—how much more so someone who scatters his De (zhi li qi de)? Scattering one’s De means the sage’s virtue is like Zhilishu’s: taking “uselessness” as the greatest use. That matches the later idea of the “uncultivated tree” (bu cai zhi mu) that completes its years—a person or thing deemed without utility is left alone and thus reaches its full term.

孔子适楚楚狂接舆游其门曰凤兮凤兮何如德之衰也来世不可待往世不可追也天下有道圣人成焉天下无道圣人生焉方今之时仅免刑焉福轻乎羽莫之知载祸重乎地莫之知避已乎已乎临人以德殆乎殆乎画地而趋迷阳迷阳无伤吾行吾行却曲无伤吾足山木自防也膏火自煎也桂可食故伐之漆可用故割之人皆知有用之用而莫知无用之用也
Interpretation

When Confucius went to Chu, the famous “Madman” Jie Yu (said to feign madness to withdraw from the world, a reclusive adept) wandered by the gate of his lodging, singing:

“Phoenix, phoenix—how has your virtue fallen so low! The age to come cannot be counted on; the past cannot be recovered. When the realm holds the Dao, the sage can accomplish great things; when the realm lacks the Dao, the sage can only barely preserve life. In times like these, people are lucky to escape punishment. Good fortune is light as a feather, yet no one knows how to carry it on the back; misfortune is heavy as the earth, yet no one knows how to step aside. Enough, enough—using virtue to press down on others and display oneself is perilous, perilous indeed. To run on ground that is only painted, to rush blindly in dazzling sunlight—do not block my path; my way was meant to wind. Do not harm my feet.

Trees in the mountains harm themselves by being useful; grease burns itself up because it can serve as fuel. The cassia is cut down because its fruit can be eaten; the lacquer tree is gashed because its sap is useful. Everyone knows the use of what is ‘useful,’ yet no one understands that ‘uselessness’ also has great use.”

此段因论语所有借以讥侮圣门也来世既不可待已往之世又不可追既生斯世而为斯人时既不可为则当自晦而已于此而强懐救世之意非知时因论语所有借以讥侮圣门也来世既不可待已往之世又不可追既生斯世而为斯人时既不可为则当自晦而已于此而强懐救世之意非知时者也故曰德衰天下有道则圣人可以成其功天下无道则圣人全其生而已方今之时乱世也但以苟免于刑为幸耳又何敢他求乎故曰方今之时仅免刑焉处乱世而仅免刑以全其生此特一羽之福而汝亦不知有之载受而有之也乱世之祸苟及其身常至杀戮是重于地也而汝亦不知避之韩诗曰荣华不满眼殃祸大如屋即此意也已乎已乎犹言休休也以德自尊而下临他人取祸之道也殆乎危乎也画地而趋言其自拘束以自苦如画地而行焉阳明也人之本性本来光明汝迷而失之则必至行于世而有伤却曲者言回防避就也不能任真直道而行如此回防避就则必至于伤吾足伤吾足者言其不可行也山木以有用而招斧斤之祸是自取防伤也膏火以明而可用自取煎熬桂因可食而后人伐之漆因可用而后人足者言其不可行也山木以有用而招斧斤之祸是自取防伤也膏火以明而可用自取煎熬桂因可食而后人伐之漆因可用而后人割之此皆不能自求名于世以招祸患者之譬也故曰人知有用之用不知无用之用 内篇德充符第五
Interpretation

This passage borrows sayings from the Analects to mock and criticize followers of the Confucian school.

There is no relying on a next life, and what is past cannot be recovered. Having been born in this age and as this kind of person, when the times are wrong one ought to restrain oneself and hide one’s abilities. In such a situation still to harbor a heart set on saving the world is not truly to know the times. Hence it is said: virtue and the Way are in decline. When the world is in order, the sage can accomplish merit; when the world is without the Way, the sage seeks only to preserve life. The present is an age of disorder—merely to escape punishment is already fortunate; how could one dare hope for more? Hence it is said: in the present age, seek only to escape punishment. To preserve body and life in chaotic times by “escaping punishment” is a blessing as slight as a single feather, yet you cannot bear or hold even that; when disaster strikes, it often goes as far as execution—a weight greater than the earth—yet you do not know how to avoid it. The Han Shi says: glory has not yet filled the eyes, but calamity is already as large as a house—this is the sense.

“Enough, enough” (yihu yihu) is like saying “let it be, let it be.” To tower over others by one’s virtue is a path that invites disaster. “Perilous!” (daihu)—how dangerous. “To hurry along within lines drawn on the ground” (huadi er qu) describes binding oneself tight and inviting suffering, as if one could walk only inside a line someone has drawn. “Yangming” refers to the brightness inherent in human beings. Human nature is originally bright; when you lose or obscure it, you walk through the world and are harmed. “Quequ” means twisting and turning, evading and shrinking back—unable to follow one’s true nature and the straight Way. Such evasion and detour in the end must injure the foot—that is, the road will not hold. Trees in the mountains are cut because they are “useful”—they invite the axe by their usefulness; tallow and grease are consumed because they give light—they invite being burned; the cassia is felled because it can be eaten; the lacquer tree is gashed because it is useful—all are images of failing to keep oneself hidden, going out into the world to seek a name, and thereby inviting calamity. Hence it is said: people only know the use of what is useful; they do not know the use of what is useless.

符应也有诸己则可以应诸外充足也德足于己则随所应而应也 鲁有兀者王骀从之游者与仲尼相若常季问于仲尼曰王骀兀者也从之游者与夫子中分鲁立不教坐不议虚而往实而归固有不言之教无形而心成者邪是何人也仲尼曰夫子圣人也丘直后而未往耳丘将以为师而况不若丘者乎奚假鲁国丘将引天下而与从之常季曰彼兀者也而王先生其与庸亦远矣若然者其用心独若之何 常季孔子弟子也中分鲁者言鲁人之从夫子者半而从骀者半也立不教与弟子立而无所教坐不议与弟 常季孔子弟子也中分鲁者言鲁人之从夫子者半而从骀者半也立不教与弟子立而无所教坐不议与弟子坐而无所言而往从之者皆空虚未有所见一见而归即充然而有得矣无形无所见也心成心感之而自化成也常季见其如此故疑以为问仲尼曰夫子指王骀也直后而未往言我欲往见之特尚迟耳如某者且将师之况他人乎奚假岂特也引天下言欲率天下之人皆师之也彼兀者也而王先生是一句王胜也言其如此犹胜于先生则与常人亦远矣先生指孔子也庸常人也 仲尼曰死生亦大矣而不得与之变
Interpretation

Correspondence between signs and reality (inner and outer responding to each other) must be realized in oneself: only when there is inner foundation can one respond appropriately to outer circumstances; when De (virtue, inner sufficiency) is enough in one’s own heart, whatever situation arises, one naturally matches it and accomplishes what is called for.


In the state of Lu there was a man named Wang Tuo, whose feet were maimed (an “amputee” figure). Those who studied with him were about as numerous as those who studied with Confucius (Zhongni). Chang Ji (a disciple of Confucius) asked Confucius: Wang Tuo is a crippled man, yet those who follow him and those who follow you, Master, are each about half of Lu. He neither lectures standing nor discusses sitting; disciples go with empty minds and return full of gain. Can there really be teaching without words and achievement of the heart without visible traces? What sort of person is he?

Confucius said: This master is a sage. I (Qiu) am merely lagging behind and have not yet gone to pay my respects. Even someone like me ought to take him as teacher—how much more those who fall short of me? And this is not only in Lu—I (Qiu) would even lead the whole world to study with him.

Chang Ji said: But he is a cripple—and Master Wang (Wang Tuo)—this line means Wang (Tuo) surpasses you, Master. Someone like him differs vastly from ordinary people. If it is really so, his mind is uniquely focused—how does that work?

(Note: “Split Lu down the middle”—in Lu, followers of Confucius and of Wang Tuo were roughly equal in number. “Stands without teaching, sits without discussing”—he does not instruct while standing or debate while sitting. “Empty going, full returning”—they leave with empty hearts and return having gained something. “No form yet the heart is formed”—no concrete visible method, yet the heart is naturally moved and completed. “How could it be limited to…”—not confined to one place. “Lead the whole world”—to bring everyone under heaven to follow him. “Ordinary”—common people. “The Master”—here, Confucius.)


Confucius also said: Life and death are a great matter too, yet (I) cannot transform and change along with him…

(Note: The line “life and death are also a great matter” is a recurring theme in the Zhuangzi; linked here with “vastly unlike ordinary people” and “even Confucius calls him Master,” it means that in the great matter of life and death, Wang Tuo’s attainment is such that Confucius admits he cannot yet keep pace or transform with him—the source text here appears incomplete.)

死生亦大矣此五字乃庄子中一大条贯与常人亦远矣先生指孔子也庸常人也 仲尼曰死生亦大矣而不得与之变 死生亦大矣此五字乃庄子中一大条贯释氏一大藏经只从此五字中出所谓死生事大如救头然是也不得与之变者言死生之变虽大而此心不动亦不能使我与之变也不得不能也与之变者随之而变也此语谓出于孔子乃庄子之寓言儒家辟以为异端者谓其于他事皆不讲明而终身只学此一件其说甚正然释氏之学正以下愚之人贪着昏沈而不可化故以此恐惧之而使之为善耳其教虽非其救世之心亦切为吾儒者不容不辟其说而亦不可不知其心也彼以人无贵贱所畏者死耳故欲以此胁持之救世之心亦切为吾儒者不容不辟其说而亦不可不知其心也彼以人无贵贱所畏者死耳故欲以此胁持之使入于道或谓释氏畏死而为此学失其心矣 虽天地覆坠亦将不与之遗审乎无假而不与物迁命物之化而守其宗也
Interpretation

Plain-language reading

The five words “death and life are a great matter” are a major thread running through the Zhuangzi; one could also say that the whole Buddhist canon grows out of this same insight. The saying “death and life are the great affair, as urgent as saving one’s head from fire” means that birth and death are enormously weighty—so pressing that one must act as if rescuing one’s head from flames.

The next line, “this is also what cannot be made to change along with it,” means that although the upheaval of birth and death is vast, the inner person does not churn along with it, and the outer world cannot force one to turn with it. Here “also cannot” (ye bu de) means “simply cannot”; “what changes along with it” (yu zhi bian zhe) means turning and shifting together with circumstances.

Zhuangzi puts these words in Confucius’s mouth—it is Zhuangzi’s parable, not historical Confucius speaking. Confucians criticize Buddhism, Daoism, and other “heterodox” teachings for seeming not to clarify other matters and for spending a lifetime fixated on this one issue of birth and death; that criticism is not entirely groundless. Yet Buddhist teaching is aimed mainly at the dull, addicted, and hard-to-awaken: it uses fear of death to restrain them and push them toward good conduct. The doctrine differs from Confucianism, but the will to save people is earnest. Confucians must refute the doctrine, yet they ought not to ignore this sincere intent.

They hold that everyone, high or low, fears death most of all, and therefore they want to use birth and death to coerce people into the path. Some say Buddhism built its system merely because it fears death—that misreads their real purpose.

“Even if heaven and earth were to overturn and collapse, this would still not be lost with them; dwelling in clarity upon what is unfeigned, not migrating with things, entrusting oneself to the transforming of the ten thousand things while guarding one’s root”—even if sky and earth capsized, “this” would not be cast away with them; resting in the unfeigned without drifting with outer things, allowing the myriad things to transform while keeping to one’s fundamental anchor.

天地覆坠犹大言乾坤毁也遗者落也言天地虽坠而我亦不与之坠落亦犹前所谓入水不濡入火不读庄子之书与语孟异其语常有过当处是其笔法如此非真曰天地能覆坠也审者明也见之尽也无假者实也如此等句皆庄子下字造语之妙处若言明乎实则拙矣不与物迁与不得与之变不与之遗同命物之化者言万物之变化皆受命于我此犹禅家所谓心迷法华转心悟转法华也宗者言万物之始也守其宗者言斯人之所守在于万物之始亦犹前同命物之化者言万物之变化皆受命于我此犹禅家所谓心迷法华转心悟转法华也宗者言万物之始也守其宗者言斯人之所守在于万物之始亦犹前所谓有始也者有未始有始也者之意庄子之书如宗字只训始字求其意则不止曰始而已如此读得方见其妙处守其宗者全体也游其和者大用也 常季曰何谓也仲尼曰自其异者视之肝胆楚越也自其同者视之万物皆一也 常人不知万物之同出于一初虽其肝胆亦自分楚越知其同出于一初则万物皆与我为一也此两句看他下语开阖处前后能文之士用此机关者不少盖庄子之书非特言理微妙而其文独精绝所以度越诸子
Interpretation

The earlier phrase about heaven and earth “collapsing and falling” is hyperbole: it imagines that even if qian and kun—the cosmos as heaven and earth—were destroyed, the person described would not fall along with them. This matches the earlier images of “entering water without getting wet” and “entering fire without being burned”: Zhuangzi’s style deliberately pushes language to extremes; it is not a literal claim that the world will cave in.

Reading Zhuangzi is not like reading Mencius. Zhuangzi often uses extreme statements and exaggeration; his wording frequently goes “too far” on purpose—that is his method, and one should not take every line at face value.

“Shen” means clear discernment; “seeing it to the end” means seeing through completely; “without falsity” means genuine and not hollow—such phrasing shows Zhuangzi’s skill in word choice and coinage. If one rewrote it in flat terms like “clear about reality,” the effect would become clumsy.

Phrases such as “not shifting with things,” “with that which cannot be given yet is given in change,” and “not being abandoned along with things” all point to not being tossed about by outer things and not being dragged along by change.

“Taking charge of the transformation of things” suggests that however the ten thousand things change, it is as if command issues from “me”—somewhat like the Chan saying: when the mind is deluded, the Lotus Sutra turns you; when the mind awakens, you turn the Lotus Sutra. In delusion you are spun by the scripture; in awakening you spin the scripture yourself.

“Zong” refers to the origin of all things; “guarding its zong” means what this person holds to is precisely the beginning of the ten thousand things, in the same vein as the earlier line, “There is a beginning; there is a not-yet-beginning that has a beginning.” In Zhuangzi, a word like “zong” can be glossed on the surface as “beginning,” yet in lived reading it is more than “start” alone; only that kind of reading brings out the finesse. “Guarding its zong” leans toward substance and root; “roaming in its harmony” leans toward function and moving freely within harmony.


Chang Ji asked: What does this mean?

Zhong Ni (Confucius) answered: From the angle of difference, liver and gall bladder can be as clearly separated as the states of Chu and Yue; from the angle of sameness, the ten thousand things are originally one body.

Ordinary people do not know that all things come from one source, so they even split liver and gall into Chu and Yue; once one knows the single source, one sees that the ten thousand things and oneself were never two.

These two sentences should be read with Zhuangzi’s habit of opening, closing, and turning—the kind of rhetorical pivot later writers often imitate. Zhuangzi is not only deep in doctrine; his prose is unmatched among the masters, which is why he stands out so sharply among the philosophers.

夫若然者且不知耳目之所宜而游心乎德之和耳于他下语开阖处前后能文之士用此机关者不少盖庄子之书非特言理微妙而其文独精绝所以度越诸子 夫若然者且不知耳目之所宜而游心乎德之和耳于听宜也目于视宜也彼能如此则不独以耳听不独以目视此禅家所谓六用一原也音岂可观而曰观世音此虽异端之言而皆有深意德之和者与天地四时同也此和字非若中庸所谓中节之和而已读此书当别具一只眼 物视其所一而不见其所丧视丧其足犹遗土也物视其所一而不见所丧言其观于万物无欠剩即读蚿一段便是此意此又翻公文轩介与之说也遗土犹言如土之自遗坠而不知也 常季曰彼为己以其知得其心以其心得其常心物何为最之哉 为己修身也以其知言人有此识知则轩介与之说也遗土犹言如土之自遗坠而不知也 常季曰彼为己以其知得其心以其心得其常心物何为最之哉 为己修身也以其知言人有此识知则能修此身得其心以其心者言有此知觉之心则能得其本然之心本然之心与知觉之心非二物也特如此下语耳其意盖谓人皆有知人皆有心苟能尽之则可以为己可以得心亦是常事耳故曰得其常心最者尊之也不曰尊而曰最此庄子之文所以奇也物人物也 仲尼曰人莫鉴于流水而鉴于止水唯止能止众止流水止水皆以喻心流者不能止者也能止其心所以心最者尊之也不曰尊而曰最此庄子之文所以奇也物人物也
Interpretation

People like that need not deliberately decide how the ears and eyes ought to be used, yet the mind moves freely in the “harmony of De (Virtue/Power)”: the ears hear when hearing is called for, the eyes see when seeing is called for. To be like this is not merely “using the ears to hear and the eyes to see”—it is what Chan Buddhism calls “the six functions, one source.” How can sound be “contemplated”? Yet we speak of Guanshiyin (“Contemplating Sound”)—though that is another tradition’s language, it too carries deep meaning. The “harmony of De” keeps pace with heaven, earth, and the four seasons; this “harmony” is not merely the “hitting the right measure” kind of harmony in the Doctrine of the Mean. To read the Zhuangzi, one must bring a different eye to it.

The myriad things (wu) see only the one thing they jointly uphold; they do not see what is lost or lacking. They treat a misstep as earth falling away of its own accord, without noticing—reading the passage on the centipede (qiu) is exactly this point. One may also turn the case around on the talk of “Xuan” and “Jie” in “The Human World.” “Leaving the earth” (yi tu) is like earth dropping away by itself, without any awareness of doing so.

Chang Ji said: He “cultivates the self” (wei ji), by his knowing he obtains his heart, by his heart he obtains the constant heart; among the myriad things, why is he supreme?—“Cultivates the self” means cultivating the person; “by his knowing” means that since humans possess cognitive understanding, they can cultivate this body and obtain the heart. “By his heart” means that with the heart that perceives, one can obtain the original heart. The original heart and the perceiving heart are not two—they are only distinguished in speech this way. The point is that everyone has knowing and everyone has a heart; if one fully realizes this, one can cultivate the self and obtain the heart—something ordinary, hence “obtaining the constant heart.” Zui here means “supreme” or “highest”; the text does not say “honored” (zun) but says “supreme”—again the Zhuangzi’s striking style. Wu here means people and things.

Zhongni (Confucius) said: Do not take flowing water as a mirror; take still water as a mirror. Only stillness can still the stillness of the multitude. Flowing water and still water both figure the heart: what flows cannot stop itself; what can stop is the heart—therefore the heart is supreme. Again the text says “supreme” rather than “honored”—another touch of the Zhuangzi’s strangeness. Wu means people and things.

仲尼曰人莫鉴于流水而鉴于止水唯止能止众止流水止水皆以喻心流者不能止者也能止其心所以独贤于人众人以欲止之心就其求止焉惟斯人则能之故曰惟止能止众止此一句盖言未能安其心之人而求教于彼彼乃能教之而使之安却如此下六字岂不奇哉禅家所谓将心来与汝安学者曰求心了不可得其师曰与汝安心竟便是此一段话 受命于地惟松柏独也在冬夏青青受命于天惟舜独也正幸能正生以正众生 以松柏比舜以舜比王骀但言其得于天者独异于众人故能正其所生以正众人之所生此生字只是于天惟舜独也正幸能正生以正众生 以松柏比舜以舜比王骀但言其得于天者独异于众人故能正其所生以正众人之所生此生字只是性字或曰舜岂可比王骀若如此读庄子是痴人前说梦也 夫保始之征不惧之实勇士一人雄入于九军将求名而能自要者而犹若是 征证也验也保守也守其始初之一语而必有证有验只一信字却如此下句不惧下着一实字无此实则不能不惧矣九军者言众兵也或战国之时有为九阵者亦未可知不必拘天子六军诸侯三军之说自要自信也荆轲聂政之徒求名而自信者也彼惟守此一信且能不变于死生而况有道者乎此一段今观佛书中有坐蟒岩守虎穴者亦只此不惧之实而已庄子如此等处皆有所见非特寓言也
Interpretation

Confucius said: when a person looks at a reflection, it cannot be seen clearly in running water—only in still water can it be seen clearly. Only “stopping” (zhi) can make every kind of “stopping” settle and hold steady. Flowing water and still water are both images for the mind: someone whose mind is like rushing water and never rests cannot achieve true stillness; one who can bring his own mind to a stop therefore stands out among people. The crowd, driven by desire, seeks “stopping” but looks outward for it; only such a person can do it from within—hence “only stopping can stop the multitude’s stopping.” This line means that those whose minds are not yet settled come to learn from him; he can teach and help them settle—and when you read the six characters that follow (the reality of not fearing), is that not remarkable? In the Chan school they say, “Bring me your mind and I will put it at rest for you”: the student asks how to seek the mind, and the master answers, “I will put your mind at rest for you”—the whole passage is that idea.

Nourished by the earth’s transforming power and growing tall, only pine and cypress stay green through winter and summer; endowed with Heaven’s mandate and standing upright, only Shun could remain correct alone—using correct mandate to correct, using correctness to transform and correct the multitude.

Comparing pine and cypress to Shun, and Shun to Wang Tai, means: favored by Heaven and earth, unlike the crowd, therefore able to set right one’s own “life,” and also set right the “life” of the multitude. Here the word “life” (sheng) is sometimes read as “nature” (xing). Some ask how Shun could be compared with someone like Wang Tai—if you read it that way, it is like talking dreams in front of a fool: the text of Zhuangzi has been misread.

“Signs of guarding the beginning, the reality of not fearing”: a brave man alone dares to charge through nine armies—for the sake of fame, one who can hold himself and trust himself can even do that.

“Sign” (zheng) means verification, what proves true; “guarding the beginning” (bao shi) is holding to the first thought, the first word—there must be proof, there must be verification—the key is the word “trust” (xin). Below, after “not fearing,” the text adds the word “reality” (shi): without this reality, fear cannot be avoided. Nine armies means many troops; in Warring States usage there may have been talk of nine battle formations—one need not rigidly tie this to the old scheme of the Son of Heaven’s six armies and the feudal lords’ three. “Self-demand” means self-trust, self-possession. Men like Jing Ke and Nie Zheng, who trusted themselves for the sake of fame, held to that one trust and did not change through life or death; how much more so one who has the Way? This section can be read alongside Buddhist stories of sitting on a python cliff or guarding a tiger den—it comes down to this same “reality of not fearing.” In places like this Zhuangzi often has real insight; it is not all allegory.

而况官天地府万物直寓六骸有坐蟒岩守虎穴者亦只此不惧之实而已庄子如此等处皆有所见非特寓言也 而况官天地府万物直寓六骸象耳目一知之所知而心未尝死者乎 官天地天覆地载天生地成各职其职而已府者聚也万物随其所聚而聚此即天地与我并生万物与我为一之意孟子曰万物皆备于我亦是府万物之意但语脉有不同耳寓六骸者言六骸者吾所寄也象耳目与不知耳目之所宜同意目象目而不止于视耳象耳而不止于听故曰象耳目一知之所知上音智下如字智者得之于性知者智之用也以其得于天者而无所不知故曰一知之所知心无所见曰死 彼且择日目一知之所知上音智下如字智者得之于性知者智之用也以其得于天者而无所不知故曰一知之所知心无所见曰死 彼且择日而登假人则从是也彼且何肯以物为事乎登升也假至也注音贾音遐皆误彼岂择日而至于道乎言不择日而升至于道无时而不在道也即道不须臾离之意人之所以从学于王骀者从是而已此是字重以物为事物者人也言彼岂肯以为人为事乎盖人自求学于彼彼何尝求以教人
Interpretation

First Section (On “Fearlessness” and Allegory)

All the more so for those who “take heaven and earth as their charge, treat the myriad things as a treasury, and regard the bodily frame as a mere lodging”—those who can sit calmly on cliffs where pythons coil and guard a tiger’s den without fear. What they rely on is precisely this real state of fearlessness. In passages like these, Zhuangzi often has genuine insight; he is not merely inventing allegorical tales.


Scriptural Line and Line-by-Line Commentary

“And all the more for one who takes heaven and earth as office, the myriad things as treasury, lodges only in the six limbs, mirrors ear and eye, knows within the One what knowing knows—and whose heart has never died?”

In gist: all the more so for someone who takes heaven and earth as duty, the myriad things as storehouse, treats the six limbs (the whole bodily frame) only as a place to lodge, lets ear and eye each fulfill their function without clinging, penetrates what is known within the intelligence of the “One,” and whose heart has never died along with things—can such a person fail to exist?


Guan tiandi (taking heaven and earth as charge)

Heaven covers and earth supports; heaven generates and earth completes—each keeps its place and fulfills its role. That is “guan (to govern/charge) heaven and earth.” It does not mean a person literally commands heaven and earth, but runs in tandem with their operation—not overstepping, not acting rashly.

Fu wanwu (the myriad things as treasury)

“Fu” means to gather and store. The myriad things gather as they gather; each returns to its place. This is the meaning of Zhuangzi’s “Heaven and earth were born together with me, and the myriad things and I are one.” Mencius’s “All things are complete in me” is the same kind of “the myriad things gathered in my heart”—only the thread of argument and angle differ.

Yu liuhai (lodging in the six limbs)

The six limbs are this body; yu is to lodge, to stay briefly. The body is not the whole of “I,” only a place of lodging, hence no clinging to the physical frame.

Xiang ermu (mirroring ear and eye)

In the same vein as “not knowing what is fitting for ear and eye” later: the eye mirrors the eye without stopping at “seeing,” the ear mirrors the ear without stopping at “hearing”—each uses what is appropriate without being led by the senses. Hence “xiang ermu.”

Yi zhi zhi suo zhi (the One’s knowing what knowing knows)

The upper zhi (read like zhi, intelligence) means clear awareness innate to nature; the lower zhi means the exercise of intelligence and what is known. Because nature originally possesses this clarity, within the “One” one knows all—not piecemeal learned knowledge, but one intelligence pervading all realms.

Xin wei chang si (the heart has never died): if the heart turns with things and rises and falls with circumstances, it is “dead”; if the heart does not leave this “one zhi,” it has never died along with things.


“He will choose a day to ascend and arrive—yet people follow him in this; how would he deign to take things as his business?”

Deng jia (ascend and arrive): deng is to rise; jia is to reach (commentarial readings like “jia,” “xia,” etc. are mistaken).

It does not mean “pick an auspicious day before treading the Way,” but: no need to choose a day—ascend and arrive at the Dao; the Dao is never absent for a moment—the sense of “the Dao cannot be left even for an instant.”

Ren ze cong shi ye (people follow him in this): people study with Wang Tai (Tai, pronounced tái) only by following this state of fearlessness, charging heaven and earth, and a heart that never dies—“shi” should be read with weight: it means this real realm, not some empty name.

Yi wu wei shi (taking things as business)

“Wu” here mostly means human affairs and artificial contrivance. How would he deign to treat human artifice and side issues as serious business? Those who study the Way follow the body of the Dao, not worldly sentiment and etiquette.


The line “he will choose a day” (linked to the previous sentence)

Still continuing “one zhi’s knowing and a heart that never died”: such a person would hardly pick a calendar day before “ascending and arriving at the Dao.” The Dao is reachable here and now; it is not on the almanac.


The above is a vernacular arrangement of this stretch of Zhuangzi kouyi-style commentary, faithful to the original philology (guan, fu, yu, xiang, yi zhi, deng jia, yi wu wei shi, etc.), without added personal elaboration.

申徒嘉兀者也而与郑子产同师于伯昏无人子产谓申徒嘉曰我先出则子止子先出则我止其明日又与合堂同席而坐子产谓申徒嘉曰我先出则子止子先出则我止今我将出子可以止乎其子产同师于伯昏无人子产谓申徒嘉曰我先出则子止子先出则我止其明日又与合堂同席而坐子产谓申徒嘉曰我先出则子止子先出则我止今我将出子可以止乎其未邪且子见执政而不违子齐执政乎申徒嘉曰先生之门固有执政焉如此哉子而悦子之执政而后人者也闻之曰鉴明则尘垢不止止则不明也久与贤人处则无过今子之所取大者先生也而犹出言若是不亦过乎子产曰子既若是矣犹与尧争善计子之德不足以自反邪 我出子止子出我止欲其相避也申徒嘉又不如其约不违者不避也齐者同也执政自谓也言子与我同出入则与执政同矣后人者先已也先已而后人则是贵我而贱物有学问则见识广大取者求也言子学于先生将求以广其见识乃浅狭如此乎取大两字佳与尧争善四字最奇言子既兀矣纵能为善得如尧乎贵我而贱物有学问则见识广大取者求也言子学于先生将求以广其见识乃浅狭如此乎取大两字佳与尧争善四字最奇言子既兀矣纵能为善得如尧乎自反言其不自量也
Interpretation

Plain-Language Reading of Zhuangzi Kouyi (Oral Explanations)

“Wuzhe” refers to someone with only one leg—either from foot-amputation punishment or born with one foot. Shen Tu Jia was such a person. He studied under Master Bo Hun Wuren together with Zichan of Zheng. Zichan said to him: “When I go out, you stay; when you go out, I stay.” The next day they sat in the same hall on the same mat again. Zichan said again: “When I go out you stay, when you go out I stay—today I am going out; can you stay behind? Or still not? And you do not avoid meeting the man in office—you treat the office-holder as your equal?”

Shen Tu Jia said: “Under our master’s roof there has always been someone in office—yet you talk like this! If you demand that others yield because you hold office, you raise yourself first and lower others after. I have heard: the brighter the mirror, the more clearly dust shows; wipe the dust away and you no longer reflect—you see less clearly. Stay long with the worthy and faults fall away. What you should value here is the master; to speak as you do—is that not fault?”

Zichan said: “Since you are already like this, you still compare your virtue with Yao’s? Is your virtue not enough for you to examine yourself?”

(Kouyi) “When I go out you stop, when you go out I stop” means each wanted the other to give way. Shen Tu Jia adds that Zichan did not understand their original agreement—“not violating” did not mean avoiding each other but being equal. “Man in office” was only Zichan’s own title; to say “you enter and leave with me and are like the office-holder” mistakes what “equal” means. “Putting oneself behind” actually puts oneself first—honoring self and slighting things. Learning is for broadening insight; “seek” means to pursue—you came to the master to widen your view, yet you are so narrow. “Seek the greater” is well put; “contend with Yao in goodness” is most striking—you are already a wuzhe; even if you could do good, could you match Yao? “Examine yourself” means Zichan did not know his own measure.


Background: This passage is from De Chong Fu (Sign of Virtue Complete) in the Zhuangzi: virtue outweighs appearance and rank. Beyond the dialogue, the oral commentary uses phrases like “equal means same” and “putting oneself behind means self first” to show that Zichan took yielding to the office-holder as hierarchy, while Shen Tu Jia held that in the master’s school all are equal and office need not set who goes first or last.

申徒嘉曰自状其过以不当亡者众不状其过以不当存者寡知不可奈何而安之若命唯有德者能之游于羿之彀中中央者中地也然而不中者命也人以其全足笑吾不全足者众矣我怫然而怒而适先生之所则废然而反不知先生之洗我以善邪吾与夫子游十九年矣而未尝知吾兀者也今子与我游于形骸之内而子索我于形骸之外不亦过乎子产蹴然改容更貌曰子无乃称 状述也声述其过以为足不当亡者众人皆然不言其过以为不当存者已鲜矣唯有德者知事事有命岂人之所能奈何哉此三句是三等人若命顺命也游彀中数语极奇绝此易所谓履虎尾也老子曰吾有大患为吾有身存者已鲜矣唯有德者知事事有命岂人之所能奈何哉此三句是三等人若命顺命也游彀中数语极奇绝此易所谓履虎尾也老子曰吾有大患为吾有身人之生世动是危机易以虎尾喻已为奇矣而庄子曰羿之彀中彀中者张弓而射箭端所直之地也善射莫如羿彀中乃其必中之地喻世之危如此况在战国之时此语尤切心幸而不中者命也废然乃自失之意言其怒至此尽失去之反归也言一见先生而归皆失其所以怒矣洗字甚佳言以善道告我如洗涤我而不自知也形骸内外二句最好此皆前书所未有者称者谓其能言也如左传所谓鲁人以为敏
Interpretation

“Zhuang” means to state or explain clearly. “Those who confess their own faults and feel they ought not to be dismissed are many”: people who lay out their mistakes and think they should not lose their office are numerous. “Those who do not confess their faults yet feel they ought not to remain in office are few”: those who say nothing about their wrongdoing yet still think they should not stay in post are rare. “To know what cannot be helped and still rest in it as fate—only one of virtue can do this”: to see that some things are fixed, that nothing can be done, and yet remain at peace with that as ming (fate)—only the person of de (virtue/power) can manage it. Among these three kinds of person, the highest is the one who follows fate and is at ease.

The lines about “wandering in the notch of Yi’s bow” are extraordinarily striking, much like the Yijing’s image of “treading on a tiger’s tail.” Laozi says, “My great trouble is that I have a body”—where there is a body, there is trouble; those who can “remain” without tormenting themselves are already few, and only the person of de truly knows ming and follows it. The gouzhong (notch of the bow) is the spot the arrow aims at once the bow is drawn; no archer surpassed Hou Yi, and the gouzhong was precisely where his shot was bound to land—an image for a world full of hidden danger, especially apt in the Warring States era. “Yet when the shot misses, that is ming”: even standing in the bull’s-eye, sometimes the arrow does not hit; that is ming, not something human effort can fully control.

“Many people with whole feet laugh at my incomplete foot, and I used to flare up in anger.” “But when I went to the Master’s place, I returned drained and subdued”: once I came to the Master (the “Master” in Zhuangzi’s setup, usually Laozi or a similar guide), I went back empty of anger, as if all indignation had been washed away. “I do not know whether the Master washed me with goodness”: the word “xi” (wash) is well chosen—the Master’s good words and good dao (Way) worked on me like rinsing filth from the mind, though I did not realize it at the time. “I have kept company with the Master for nineteen years, and he has never treated me as a wuzhe (one with a truncated foot)”: for nineteen years he never saw me as “someone missing a foot.” “Now you and I wander together within the form, yet you seek me outside the form—is that not going too far?” Xinghai zhi nei and xinghai zhi wai (within the form / outside the form) are paired: we should meet in spirit and de, yet you pick at me in outward shape and official rank—surely that is excessive. These two lines are among the finest in earlier books, rarely matched elsewhere.

Zichan “at once changed expression and countenance and said: You have spoken rightly”—“cùrán gǎi róng gēng mào yuē: zǐ wú nǎi chēng”: he immediately altered his face and bearing and acknowledged that Zishen’s words were apt, that he alone “chēng” (deserved to be called right). Here “chēng” means the speech was fitting and worth praise, in the spirit of how the Zuozhuan praises someone as “min” (quick-witted) for a sharp reply.

鲁有兀者叔山无趾踵见仲尼仲尼曰子不谨前既犯患若是矣虽今来何及矣无趾曰吾惟不知务而轻用为敏 鲁有兀者叔山无趾踵见仲尼仲尼曰子不谨前既犯患若是矣虽今来何及矣无趾曰吾惟不知务而轻用吾身吾是以亡足今吾来也犹有尊足者存吾是以务全之也夫天无不覆地无不载吾以夫子为天地安知夫子之犹若是也孔子曰丘则陋矣夫子胡不入乎请讲以所闻无趾出孔子曰弟子勉之夫无趾兀者也犹务学以复补前行之恶而况全德之人乎无趾语老聃曰孔丘之于至人其未邪彼何宾宾以学子为彼且蕲以諔诡幻怪之名闻不知至人之以是为巳桎梏邪老聃曰胡不直使彼以死生为一条以可不可为一贯者解其桎梏其可乎无趾曰天刑之安彼且蕲以諔诡幻怪之名闻不知至人之以是为巳桎梏邪老聃曰胡不直使彼以死生为一条以可不可为一贯者解其桎梏其可乎无趾曰天刑之安可解 踵见见也不知务犹言不晓事也尊足者性也尊足二字下得奇所可贵者不在形骸之外也宾宾司马云恭貌是也諔诡幻怪只言好名而已已桎梏者言名为巳之累也天刑之犹天罚之不与之以道也庄子借孔子以为言或抑或扬皆寓言也但如此段曰无趾兀者也犹务学以复补前行之恶而况全德之人乎此语亦有益于世教死生为一条可不可为一贯即齐物篇可乎可不可乎不可之意
Interpretation

In the state of Lu there was a man who had lost his feet, named Shu Shan Wuzhi. He went to see Confucius on tiptoe. Confucius said, “You were not careful before and brought this misfortune on yourself. What use is it to come now?” Wuzhi replied, “I only blame myself for not understanding what matters and for rashly ruining my body, and so I lost my feet. I come now because there is still something more precious than feet—namely human nature—and I want to keep that intact. Heaven covers all without partiality; earth supports all without picking and choosing. I took you, Master, to be like heaven and earth. I did not expect you to be like this.” Confucius said, “I am too shallow. Why not come in? Please tell us what you have heard.” After Wuzhi left, Confucius said to his disciples, “You must exert yourselves! Wuzhi is a maimed man, yet he still strives to learn in order to make up for his earlier fault. How much more should those whose virtue is whole!”

Wuzhi said to Laozi, “Confucius is still far from being a person of utmost attainment, is he not? Why must he be so deferential and receive me with the ceremony owed to a student? If he still craves to spread a strange reputation far and wide, does he not know that the person of utmost attainment treats fame as shackles bound upon oneself?” Laozi said, “Why not have him take life and death as one continuous line and what is permissible and what is not as one unbroken strand, and help him slip free of those shackles—would that do?” Wuzhi said, “That is punishment decreed by Heaven. How could it be undone?”

(Note: In this passage Zhuangzi puts words in the mouths of Confucius and Laozi to make his point; whether he criticizes or praises them is all part of the parable. The line that even Wuzhi, though maimed, still presses on in learning to atone for past wrongs—how much more those of whole virtue—also carries a note of encouragement for ordinary moral cultivation. “Life and death as one line, permissible and impermissible as one strand” is the same idea as in Discourse on Making Things Equal (Qiwu Lun): that yes and no cannot finally be split apart.)

鲁哀公问于仲尼曰卫有恶人焉曰哀骀他丈夫与之处者思而不能去也妇人见之请于父母曰与可乎可不可乎不可之意 鲁哀公问于仲尼曰卫有恶人焉曰哀骀他丈夫与之处者思而不能去也妇人见之请于父母曰与为人妻宁为夫子妾者十数而未止也未尝有闻其唱者也常和而已矣无君人之位以济乎人之死无聚禄以望人之腹又以恶骇天下和而不唱知不出乎四域且而雌雄合乎前是必有异乎人者也寡人召而观之果以恶骇天下与寡人处不至以月数而寡人有意乎其为人也不至乎期年而寡人信之国无宰寡人国焉闷然而后应汜而若辞寡人丑乎卒授之国无几何也去寡人而行寡人防焉若有亡也寡人信之国无宰寡人国焉闷然而后应汜而若辞寡人丑乎卒授之国无几何也去寡人而行寡人防焉若有亡也若无与乐是国也是何人者也 恶人者形丑者也不倡常和言其无所作为也无君人之位者言其无贵权也聚禄富也望人之腹者饱也望满也月盈曰望看此等下字庄子之笔端岂可及哉知不出乎四域言其所知非出于世外也雌雄合其前与物狎也此即鸥鸟不惊之意闷然无意而答之意汜者无系着之意寡人丑乎丑者愧也授之国者授以国政也防焉若有亡即汉王如失左右手之意
Interpretation

Duke Ai of Lu asked Confucius: In the state of Wei there was a man everyone called the “Ugly One,” named Ai Taituo. Men who spent time with him wanted to leave but could not bring themselves to go; women who saw him would tell their parents, “Better be this gentleman’s concubine than another man’s wife”—and there were more than ten such cases, and it did not stop. No one heard him take the lead in singing harmony; he only ever joined in, following along. He had no ruler’s position by which to save people from death, nor gathered stipend and wealth by which to fill people’s bellies, yet with a face so frighteningly ugly he moved the whole realm; he merely harmonized and never led, and his wisdom did not go beyond ordinary human affairs. Male and female paired naturally in his presence—surely he must be someone unlike ordinary people. The duke summoned him and looked: he was indeed shockingly ugly.

The duke kept company with him; within a few months he had taken a liking to the man; within a year he trusted him. When there was no suitable chief minister in the state, the duke wanted to hand the government over to him. The man was downcast and only after a long pause agreed, as if declining; was the duke ashamed? In the end he still entrusted him with the state. Before long the man left Wei, and the duke went after him as if he had lost something precious. The duke said: Without him, what joy is there in this state? What sort of person was this?

Notes on wording in the oral gloss (to help when reading the original):

  • E ren (“Ugly One”): here it does not mean a morally “bad person” but someone ugly in form (e ren zhe, xing chou zhe ye).
  • Bu chang chang he: he does not take the lead or play the starring role, only joins the chorus—painting him as uncontending and without deliberate action (wuwei-like).
  • Wu jun ren zhi wei: no position as ruler, so he cannot rely on rank to save lives and the like.
  • Ju lu: gathered stipend and wealth; wang ren zhi fu: filling people’s bellies—making them fed (“wang” carries the sense of full or brimming, as in the full moon at “wang”).
  • Zhi bu chu hu si yu: what he knows does not leave human affairs and the mundane world—it stays within ordinary custom.
  • Ci xiong he hu qian: close and easy with things, neither side startled—like the Zhuangzi image of gulls unafraid when one is naturally at ease with them.
  • Men ran er hou ying: gloomy and slow, only then answering.
  • Si: like water spreading without being tied—no obstruction, no clinging.
  • Gua ren chou hu: here chou means ashamed—whether the duke felt shame for pressing someone against his will.
  • Shou zhi guo: handing over state power to him.
  • Fang yan ruo you wang: pursuing him as if one had lost one’s right hand (the oral gloss compares this to the Han king who lost Han Xin and Xiao He).
仲尼曰丘也尝使于楚矣适见豚子食于其死母者之意闷然无意而答之意汜者无系着之意寡人丑乎丑者愧也授之国者授以国政也防焉若有亡即汉王如失左右手之意 仲尼曰丘也尝使于楚矣适见豚子食于其死母者少焉眴若皆弃之而走不见已焉尔不得焉尔所爱其母者非爱其形也爱使其形者也战而死者其人之葬也不以翣资刖者之屦无为爱之皆无其本矣为天子之诸御不爪翦不穿耳取妻者止于外不得复使形全犹足以为尔而况全德之人乎今哀骀它未言而信无功而亲使人授已国惟恐其不受也是必才全而德不形者也 豚子之喻谓人之爱恶不在于形骸之美恶也眴若惊貌不得者不似始者也已身也言不见其形者也 豚子之喻谓人之爱恶不在于形骸之美恶也眴若惊貌不得者不似始者也已身也言不见其身得似始者故如此分下两句此皆庄子弄笔处爱使其形之说若以名教律之此语大有罪岂古人所谓事死如事生不忍死其亲之意此皆其形容之文有过当处不可以此律之亦不可不知其非也战死不用翣非行礼之丧也资用也刖者于屦而无所爱外饰无所施也此亦形容有德在内不在外之意天子之御不爪翦不穿耳不修饰而全其形之意新娶者免役礼记有之不得复使言官中不得役之也此借全形以形容全德之义
Interpretation

Confucius said: When I was once sent on a mission to Chu, I happened to see piglets pressing close to a sow that had already died, as if they wanted to nurse. Their look was dull and blank, not like they were seriously seeking milk; their manner was scattered and unfocused, as if they had no real attachment in mind. The point here is that what people (or all things) are drawn to is not necessarily the visible body itself.

After a while the piglets seemed suddenly startled and ran off in all directions—because they could no longer find “the one they knew before,” and could no longer get milk. This shows that what they loved was not the outward corpse of the sow, but the “living something” that had been in that body before (the vitality that kept the body going and could nurse them).

Further examples in the same vein: a soldier killed in battle need not be buried with the full display of feather fans used in state funerals; for someone whose feet have been cut off, even the finest shoes are pointless—because the “root” they depended on is already gone. A ruler’s close attendants need not trim their nails or wear ear ornaments (they need not rely on outward adornment); a man newly married may be exempt from corvée duty abroad (no longer sent away on labor)—all of this says that keeping the physical form intact still counts as one kind of wholeness, so how much more so for someone whose De is fully preserved.

The text then turns to Ai Taituo: before he had even spoken, people trusted him; without performing notable service, people felt close to him; some even wanted to hand him the state, yet feared he might refuse. Confucius concluded that this must be someone whose talent is fully complete while his De does not show itself in outward form, reputation, or merit.

The commentator further explains the “piglet” image: what people like or dislike does not necessarily track physical beauty or ugliness. The piglets “startle and run” because they can no longer recognize or reconnect with their former mother—not because the shape is still there, but because “what made nursing possible” is no longer visible, so the analogy targets “whatever makes the form hold together,” not surface appearance.

The commentator also explains: “no feather fans for the war dead” does not mean ordinary mourning should be stripped down, but describes a kind of funeral that “need not rely on outward pomp”; “shoes for the amputee” means that when outward things lack an inner root, cherishing them is futile—still the same theme of De within, not outward display. Examples such as attendants not trimming nails or piercing ears, or the newly married being exempt from duty, all borrow “wholeness of form” to highlight “wholeness of De.”

The commentator also cautions: if one forces Confucian names, teaching, and ritual onto phrases like “love makes them cling to the form,” the reading becomes excessive. The ancients said “serve the dead as the living” out of unwillingness to treat kin as mere dead matter; here Zhuangzi is stacking metaphors, with exaggerated rhetoric—there is a “descriptive, figurative” quality that cannot be judged line by line against ritual code, yet one should still see that he is writing in figures, not laying down everyday rules for mourning and sacrifice.

哀公曰何谓才全仲尼曰死生存亡穷达贫富贤与不肖毁誉饥渴寒暑是事之变命之行也日夜相代乎前而知不能规乎其始者也故不足以滑和不可入于灵府使之和豫通而不失于兑使日夜无却而与物命之行也日夜相代乎前而知不能规乎其始者也故不足以滑和不可入于灵府使之和豫通而不失于兑使日夜无却而与物为春是接而生时于心者也是之谓才全
Interpretation

Duke Ai asked, “What is meant by ‘complete endowment’?”

Zhongni (Confucius) said: Life and death, survival and loss, obscurity and prominence, poverty and wealth, worthiness and unworthiness, slander and praise, hunger and thirst, cold and heat—these are shifts in worldly affairs and turns of fate. They alternate before you day and night, and human cleverness cannot fix them from the start.

Therefore such outer circumstances are not enough to disturb the peace within you, nor can they enter your lingfu—the inner chamber of the spirit. Let the heart be harmonious, at ease, and unobstructed, without losing a natural joy; let day and night pass without shrinking back; in meeting the myriad things, be like spring itself, full of vitality—so that in every contact with things, the mind responds with timely measure and living responsiveness. This is what is called “complete endowment.”

此段归结在才全德不形一句前言死生亦大而不得与之变于此又以死生存亡穷达贫富毁誉饥渴寒暑等总言之此是防绎发越处规者求也此等事之变天命之行日夜相更迭于目前虽有知者亦不能求其始不过曰自然而然尔不足以滑和者言不能滑乱胸中之和也只是不得与之变一句不入于灵府者不动其心也和豫通三字一意豫悦也通流通也心既不动则使之自然和顺豫悦流通而不失其兑兑亦悦也此一句便是庄子之文和豫通犹曰周徧咸也见后篇日夜无却者言日新而不已也却止也与物为春者随所寓而皆为乐也物事物也此春字与兑字同接而生子之文和豫通犹曰周徧咸也见后篇日夜无却者言日新而不已也却止也与物为春者随所寓而皆为乐也物事物也此春字与兑字同接而生时于心者即佛经所谓无所住而生其心也接犹感也时犹时中之时也随事之所感而应之不偏不滞故曰生时于心才者质也如孟子曰天之降才也才全犹言全其质性也
Interpretation

This passage brings together the theme of “complete endowment without manifest virtue” (cai quan de bu xing). Earlier it was said that birth and death are weighty matters, yet one need not change along with them; here birth and death, survival and loss, success and failure, poverty and wealth, praise and blame, hunger and thirst, cold and heat, and the like are gathered into one list—this is where the exposition opens out and develops.

“Those who have rules and seek” (gui zhe qiu ye)—people who live by standards and grasping—are always reckoning with the shifts of these circumstances and the turning of fate. Day and night alternate before our eyes; however much one knows, one cannot chase down a “first cause”; one can only say: it has always been thus, naturally so.

“What is not enough to disturb harmony” (bu zu yi hua he zhe) means what cannot unsettle the harmony in the breast—the crux is “not changing along with them” (bu de yu zhi bian): not letting the heart shift with outer conditions. “What does not enter the spirit storehouse (ling fu) does not move the heart”—the ling fu is the innermost depth; for the heart to stay unmoved, the three words he, yu, and tong must run as one thread: yu is ease and glad acceptance, tong is unobstructed flow. Once the heart is unmoved, let things be natural: harmonious, accepting, and flowing, without losing dui (joy). This line is characteristic of Zhuangzi’s style.

“Harmony, ease, and penetration” (he yu tong) shares the same aim as “pervasive and complete” (zhou bian xian) in a later passage. “Day and night without ceasing” (ri ye wu que)—renewed daily, never stopping; que means to stop. “With things as spring” (yu wu wei chun)—wherever one rests, all can be spring, all can be joy; wu refers to affairs and circumstances; this “spring” matches the dui above, following the sense of “and thus life” and what comes after.

“Born in season in the heart” (sheng shi yu xin) is close to the Buddhist “respond from no fixed abode and let the heart arise.” Jie is responsive contact, shi is the present moment’s opportunity; responding as each affair touches one, without leaning or clinging—that is why it is called “born in season in the heart.”

Cai means native endowment and quality, as in Mencius’s “Heaven’s bestowed endowment.” “Complete endowment” (cai quan) is preserving one’s original nature; set against “virtue without form” (de bu xing), complete endowment stays inward and shows no outward trace—so the paragraph’s point rests on cai quan and de bu xing.

何谓德不形曰平者水停之盛也其可以为法也内保之而外不荡也德者成和之修也德不形者物不能离也哀公异日以告闵子曰殆也吾以南面而君天下执民之纪而忧其死吾自以为至通矣今吾闻至人之言恐吾无其实轻用以告闵子曰殆也吾以南面而君天下执民之纪而忧其死吾自以为至通矣今吾闻至人之言恐吾无其实轻用吾身而亡吾国吾与孔丘非君臣也德友而已矣 德不形者言其德无所可见也水停则平平则可以为法法准则也内保停也外不荡止也即前所谓鉴于止水者又如此变下其文和者中和之和也成者全也全此性中之和是其德之修也德不形随事物而见言其无所往而非德非一端所可名故曰德不形者物不能离也执民之纪四字佳即是执国之柄忧其死者言能爱民也哀公安得南面而君天下此皆庄子下笔过当不照管处非君臣也德友而已矣与孟子友之云乎意同皆是寓言不可以实求之 闉跂支离无脤说过当不照管处非君臣也德友而已矣与孟子友之云乎意同皆是寓言不可以实求之 闉跂支离无脤说卫灵公灵公悦之而视全人其脰肩肩瓮防大瘿说齐桓公桓公悦之而视全人其脰肩肩故德有所长而形有所忘人不忘其所忘而忘其所不忘此谓诚忘
Interpretation

“De takes no fixed form” means that De does not stay locked into one visible shape. When water is still, it reaches the flattest level; that “levelness” can serve as a standard: inwardly holding that stillness, outwardly not being stirred by things. De is what comes from fully preserving and cultivating the harmony of one’s nature; “De takes no fixed form” means it shows up along with each person and event—it cannot be exhausted by one place or one label—hence “De takes no fixed form”: nothing is apart from it.

“Uphold the people’s discipline” is well put: it is grasping the main threads of governing; “care that they do not perish” means truly sympathizing with and cherishing the people. How could Duke Ai literally “face south and rule all under Heaven”? This is Zhuangzi writing with a heavy hand—not every line should be read as historical fact. He and Kong Qiu (Confucius) were not ruler and subject but friends who met through De, much like the “friendship” Mencius speaks of—both are parables; do not force them to match the chronicles.


The parables of Quèzhī, Zhīlí, and “no neck”

Quèzhī and Zhīlí (people with maimed bodies) went to persuade Duke Ling of Wei; Ling was deeply impressed by them, and when he looked at whole-bodied people again, he felt everyone’s neck was “just a neck” (he no longer judged by appearance). Wèngjiāng dà yǐng (the man with a huge wen on his neck who sold gruel) went to persuade Duke Huan of Qi; Huan was impressed by him too, and when he looked at whole-bodied people, likewise necks were just necks.

So: De has what it excels in; form has what may be forgotten. When someone forgets what should be forgotten and clings to what should not, that is called “true forgetting” (zhēng wàng)—having genuinely forgotten attachment to outward form).

闉跂曲背也支离伛之貌也无脤无唇也伛曲缺唇丑之甚也肩肩者细长之貌也瓮防大瘿项瘤者也此两句皆喻人之好恶不在于形骸之外伛瘤之人得意于君视全人反不如之故曰德有所长形有所忘言爱其德而忘其形人不忘其忘而忘其所不忘此两句极佳即孟子一指不若人之喻所可忘者形也所不可忘者德也诚忘者真忘也知有形而不知有德者真忘也 故圣人有所游而知为孽约为胶德孟子一指不若人之喻所可忘者形也所不可忘者德也诚忘者真忘也知有形而不知有德者真忘也 故圣人有所游而知为孽约为胶德为接工为商圣人不谋恶用知不斫恶用胶无丧恶用德不货恶用商四者天鬻也天鬻也者天食也既受食于天又恶用人圣人有所游游者即所谓心有天游是也知去声以智处事也约以礼自检束工艺能也孽菑孽也胶泥也固也接接于外而忘其内也商贾也如所谓买名于天下也心有天游则知此四者皆吾之累矣圣人无所谋于世则不用智矣不斫削而自合于理则不用约矣守其内而无事乎外则不用德矣不货者不求售也则不用艺能矣四无所谋于世则不用智矣不斫削而自合于理则不用约矣守其内而无事乎外则不用德矣不货者不求售也则不用艺能矣四者不谋不斫无丧不货也天鬻天食天禄也犹言天爵也既受食于天又恶用人犹言有天爵而不求人爵也
Interpretation

Form and De

Bent legs and a hunched back are the look of someone “crippled” or “hunchbacked”; missing calves or lips is the extreme of a twisted, lipless ugliness. “Shoulders upon shoulders” describes a neck thin and long; “jar-like, wen, goiter” point to a neck swollen like a pot or a huge wen. All of this is metaphor: what people love or loathe is not decided outside the physical body. Hunchbacks and those with great wens may win a ruler’s favor, while so-called “perfect” people fare worse—hence where De is long, form may be forgotten: cherish the De and let the form go.

True forgetting and false forgetting

What should be forgotten is form; what must not be forgotten is De. Sincere forgetting is real forgetting. Knowing only form and not De is forgetting what should be forgotten and clinging to what should not—false forgetting.

The sage’s “ roaming” and the four “evil uses”

Therefore the sage has something to roam in—here roam means what is called xin you tian you: letting the heart move freely within heavenly principle.

  • Zhi wei nie (knowing as calamity): handling affairs through cleverness becomes harm.
  • Yue wei jiao (contracts as glue): binding oneself with ritual and law, stuck like glue.
  • De wei jie (De as mere contact): using De only to meet others outwardly.
  • Gong wei shang (craft as trade): treating skill as commerce for fame and gain.

This aligns with Mencius’s image of fretting over “one finger not matching others”: form may be forgotten, De may not; sincere forgetting is real forgetting—knowing only form and not De is still false forgetting.

When the sage has heavenly roaming in the heart, these four are seen as burdens, and so:

  • Bu mou (no scheming) → no use of cleverness
  • Bu zhuo (no cutting/shaping) → no use of contractual binding
  • Wu sang (nothing lost inwardly) → no use of outward “De”
  • Bu huo (no peddling) → no use of craft and trade

These four—bu mou, bu zhuo, wu sang, bu huo—together are called tian yu; tian yu is tian shi, tian lu (heaven’s nourishment, heaven’s stipend), like tian jue (heaven’s rank): once one’s sustenance comes from heaven, why still rely on human cleverness, contracts, De-as-contact, and commerce? Having received tian jue, one need not seek ren jue (human rank).

以接而生时乎其心才全而德不形一智之所知由前言之三字皆是好字到此段接德智又成不好字此鼓舞其笔不照前后所以为异端之书 有人之形无人之情有人之形故群于人无人之情故是非不得于身眇乎小哉所以属于人也謷乎大哉独成其天惠子谓庄子曰人故无情乎庄子曰然惠子曰人而无情何以谓之人庄子曰道与之貌天与之形恶得不谓之人惠子曰既谓之人恶得无情庄子曰是非吾所谓情也吾所谓无情者言人之不以好恶内伤其身常因自然而不益生也惠子曰不益生何以有其身庄子曰道与之貌天与之形无以好恶内伤其身今子外乎子之神劳乎身常因自然而不益生也惠子曰不益生何以有其身庄子曰道与之貌天与之形无以好恶内伤其身今子外乎子之神劳乎子之精倚树而吟据槁梧而瞑天选子之形子以坚白鸣
Interpretation

A Note on “Receiving,” “Life,” “Timeliness,” and on “Virtue” and “Wisdom”

In what came before, the three words “receiving,” “life,” and “timeliness” were treated in the commentary as favorable terms; in this passage, when they are linked with “virtue” and “wisdom,” the same kind of phrasing turns negative. The prose swells and surges without regard to continuity with what precedes and follows, which is why some readers class books of this sort as heterodox writings.


Main drift of the Zhuangzi passage

Some people have a human body but not the sort of “qing” (emotion/disposition) that ordinary people mean by that word. Because they have a body, they can live among others; because they lack that kind of qing, right and wrong do not harm them inwardly. What belongs to “the human” is small; what is completed solely by Heaven is great.

Huizi asked Zhuangzi: Can a person truly be without qing? Zhuangzi said: Yes. Huizi asked: If someone has no qing, is he still a person? Zhuangzi said: the Dao gives him his looks, Heaven gives him his form—how can he not count as a person? Huizi asked: If he counts as a person, how can he have no qing? Zhuangzi said: The “qing” you mean is not the “qing” I mean. When I speak of “no qing” (wú qíng), I mean that one should not let likes and dislikes injure oneself, that one should constantly follow what is natural and not artificially “add to life” (yì shēng). Huizi asked: If you do not add to life, where does the body come from? Zhuangzi said: The Dao gives him his looks, Heaven gives him his form—do not let likes and dislikes injure the body inwardly. Now you wander outside with your spirit and wear out your form with your essence. Huizi pressed again: If you do not add to life, how is there a body at all? Zhuangzi repeated his earlier reply. Huizi said once more: If you do not add to life, how is there a body? Zhuangzi again said: The Dao gives him his looks, Heaven gives him his form; do not let likes and dislikes injure the body inwardly. Now you wander outside with your spirit and wear out your form with your essence. Huizi leaned against a tree and groaned, rested on a withered sophora and shut his eyes. Heaven chose your form, yet you make your name with “hard and white”—and the commentary or quotation closes here.


Plain-language walkthrough of the dialogue

What Huizi and Zhuangzi dispute over as “qing” is really two layers of meaning: Huizi lumps joy and anger, love and hate, and the heart of right-and-wrong under “qing”; Zhuangzi excludes from the “no qing” he advocates precisely those likes and dislikes that wound one’s nature inwardly. Zhuangzi’s “no qing” is not being a block of wood; it is not letting right-wrong and likes-dislikes damage one’s nature, and not artificially “adding to life” by fussing over the body, while form and life originally come from the Dao and Heaven—yet are often drained by debates over “hard and white” (Huizi’s School-of-Names theme).

The commentator praised “receiving,” “life,” and “timeliness” earlier and criticized how “virtue” and “wisdom” are joined later: within the same oral-style exposition, praise and blame for the same sort of wording do not align, and the pen leaps about unlike a strict commentary on a classic—hence calling it an “heterodox book.” Readers who focus only on Zhuangzi’s story should keep the main point: having the human form to live with others, yet lacking vulgar qing so as not to be harmed; set against Huizi’s “hard and white” debate, Zhuangzi uses the dialogue to satirize the School of Names’ habit of exhausting the spirit.

此段乃庄子与惠子问辨之言有人之形以下乃庄子寻常有此语惠子因而问之也群于人者言与人同也是非不得于身者言无入而不自得超出于是非之外独成其天与天为徒也言人能外于是非无入不自得则与天为徒而所造者大矣天与之形者有物也道与之貌者物必有则也吾所谓无情言人不以好恶之情而内伤其身者有益则有损常因自然则无所益亦无所损矣言有余不足皆为病益生者有余之病也好恶出于自然而无所着则无所损益矣惠子曰不益生何以有损常因自然则无所益亦无所损矣言有余不足皆为病益生者有余之病也好恶出于自然而无所着则无所损益矣惠子曰不益生何以有其身是以益生为资生非庄子之意也庄子与惠子为至密之友惠子博学而好辨故庄子以外神劳精讥之外神者神用于外也犹言神不守舍是也槁梧枯木以为几也瞑倦也坚白辩之名也选授也言天授子之形而子乃自苦如此何也只一鸣字韩文公就此抽出成一篇序如许其妙庄子安得不为作者 庄子口义卷二 钦定四库全书 庄子口义卷三 宋 林希 撰 内篇大宗师第六 大宗师者道也犹言圣法天天法道道法自然也
Interpretation

Vernacular Exposition of Zhuangzi Kouyi: “The Great Fundamental Teacher”

The Great Fundamental Teacher means the Dao; in essence, the sage emulates Heaven, Heaven emulates the Dao, and the Dao emulates natural spontaneity.


Huizi Asks About “Form” and “Disciple of Heaven”

This passage reflects a theme common in Zhuangzi and Huizi’s exchanges: what lies below “having human form” is what Zhuangzi often says in daily discourse; Huizi presses him on it.

  • To group with people: to be of the same kind as the multitude and blend among them.
  • Right and wrong not settled on oneself: not tying gain and loss to one’s own person—entering anywhere without losing ease, rising above right and wrong, alone completing one’s Heaven-given nature.
  • Disciple of Heaven: when a person can stand outside right and wrong and be at ease everywhere, they are of Heaven’s kind; what they accomplish is great.

“Heaven Gives Form” and “No Sentiment”

  • Heaven gives form—there is a thing; the Dao gives appearance—things must have their norms: Heaven bestows form and the Dao bestows countenance; the ten thousand things each have their law.
  • What I call no sentiment: not cold-heartedness, but people not wounding themselves inwardly through likes and dislikes—where there is benefit there is harm; if one always accords with natural spontaneity, there is neither benefit nor harm.
  • Speaking of surplus and insufficiency is all illness; “nourishing life” is the illness of surplus: to talk of “more than enough” and “not enough” is already sickness; nourishing life (yisheng) is the sickness of surplus—if likes and dislikes arise from nature and there is no clinging, nothing is gained or lost.

Huizi asks: If you do not nourish life, how do you keep your body?—He takes nourishing life as sustaining life, which is not Zhuangzi’s point.


Huizi, the “Dried Catalpa,” and “Hard and White”

Zhuangzi and Huizi were closest of friends; Huizi was learned and fond of disputation, so Zhuangzi mocked him for wearing out the spirit and tiring the essence outwardly—outward spirit: spirit applied outside the self, like spirit not keeping to its dwelling.

Dried catalpa (gaowu): withered wood; made into a armrest; míng: drowsiness. Hard and white (jianbai): a famous disputation (Hui Shi’s “hard and white” argument). Xuan: to confer. Heaven gave you form—yet you torment yourself like this; why?—Heaven gave you a body, yet you suffer yourself so—what is it for?

From the single word “cry (ming)” alone, Han Yu once drew an entire preface—so fine is the craft—how could Zhuangzi fail to count as a master author?


Volume Two ends here; Volume Three begins with Inner Chapter: The Great Fundamental Teacher, Chapter Six.

知天之所为知人之所为者至矣知天之所为者天而生也知人之所为者以其知之所知以养其知之所不知终其天年而不中道夭者是知之盛也虽然有患夫知有所待而后当其所待者特未定也庸讵知吾所谓天之非人乎所谓人之非天乎且有之盛也虽然有患夫知有所待而后当其所待者特未定也庸讵知吾所谓天之非人乎所谓人之非天乎且有真人而后有真知人之生也凡事皆出于天故曰天所为然身处世间人事有当尽者故曰人所为人事尽而天理见是以其知之所知以养其知之所不知也不役役以伤生故曰终其天年既知天又知人故曰知之盛也此数语甚正虽然有患而下此一转尤妙知有所待而后当知在我所待者在外或无所求而自得或必有求而后得皆不可得而定当者定也亦当否之当也事既定而后见其当与不当此一字下得最工若以为出于天又必求而后得若以为出于人又有求而不得者此所谓讵知天之非人人之非天也譬否之当也事既定而后见其当与不当此一字下得最工若以为出于天又必求而后得若以为出于人又有求而不得者此所谓讵知天之非人人之非天也譬如寿夭不贰莫非命也而又曰知命者不立乎岩墙之下便见天所为与人所为不定处庄子看世事最精此等处当子细玩味必有真人而后有真知此言有道者也
Interpretation

To grasp what “heaven does” and what “humans do”—and to keep the two distinct—is already the summit of insight. “Heaven’s doing” means receiving life from mandate; “human doing” means using what one knows to nurture what one does not yet know, so one completes one’s years and does not die mid-course—that is “the height of knowing” (bringing both knowing and fate to their limit).

Even so, a worry remains: human cognition usually waits on external things and on conditions being in place before it feels “right”; yet what it waits on has no fixed measure. How can we be sure that what we call “heaven” is not “human”? Or that what we call “human” is not “heaven”?

(The passage repeats the “height of knowing” theme: knowing waits on something before it seems fitting; what it waits on is unsettled; heaven may be human and human may be heaven.)

Take “fitting” and “unfitting”: only after a matter is settled can we see whether it was fitting—the word “fitting” is used with great precision. If we attribute everything to heaven, it still seems we must seek to obtain; if we attribute everything to humans, there are times when seeking fails—hence the question: how can we be sure heaven is not human, or human not heaven?

Again: long life and short life are not two paths—both are mandate; yet we also say one who knows fate does not stand under a crumbling wall—so heaven’s doing and human doing have no fixed border. Zhuangzi sees worldly affairs most clearly; passages like this repay slow reading.

And: only after there is a True Person (Zhenren) is there true knowledge (Zhenzhi)

This line speaks of those who have the Way: only after one becomes a “True Person” (one united with the Dao, without pretense) can one speak of “true knowledge” (not cleverness, but knowing that accords with the Dao).

何谓真人古之真人不逆寡不雄成不谟士若然者过而弗悔当而不自得也若然者登高不栗入水不濡入火不是知之能登假于道也若此 寡不足也不逆顺也当不足之时即听顺之功虽成亦不以为夸雄夸也士与事同古字通用如东高不栗入水不濡入火不是知之能登假于道也若此 寡不足也不逆顺也当不足之时即听顺之功虽成亦不以为夸雄夸也士与事同古字通用如东山诗曰勿士行枚也谟谋也无心而为之故曰不谟事过而弗悔过失也犹今曰蹉过也当而不自得当谛当也犹今曰恰好也事成也自得自多也凡事或失或成皆委之自然不以失为悔不以成为喜也登高不栗入水不濡入火不即无入而不自得也知之能登假于道言其所见深造于道也两若然者此是庄子笔势知与智同假至也 古之真人其寝不梦其觉无忧其食不甘其息深深真人之息以踵众人之息以喉屈服者其嗌言若哇其嗜欲深者其天机浅
Interpretation

What Is a True Person (Zhenren)?

Paraphrase of the original

What is meant by a “true person” (zhenren)? The true persons of antiquity did not resist insufficiency or lack, did not boast when they succeeded, and did not scheme over how to act. Thus, when something went wrong they did not regret it; when things turned out right they did not congratulate themselves. In that state, climbing high they were not afraid, entering water they were not soaked, entering fire they were not burned—for they could ascend and reach through the Dao, opening into a higher dimension of realization.


“Not resisting insufficiency” (bu ni gua)

“Gua” means insufficiency, want, or lack. Not resisting gua means that even when one is short of what is needed, one accepts the situation as it is—without forcing against it or complaining.

“Not boasting of achievement” (bu xiong cheng)

“Xiong” here carries the sense of showing off or vaunting. Having accomplished something, they still did not parade their success.

“Not scheming over affairs” (bu mo shi)

“Mo” is to plan or plot; in classical usage “shi” (affairs) often overlaps with “shi” (the officer/knight graph used for “matter”). Not scheming over affairs means not calculating every move on purpose, but acting in accord with what naturally unfolds.

“When it passes, no regret; when it hits the mark, no self-congratulation” (guo er fu hui, dang er bu zi de)

“Guo” is fault, miss, or “missing the moment,” as when people today say something was “missed”; “dang” is hitting rightly, aptness, “just so”; “zi de” is taking credit or feeling smug about oneself. Success or failure alike are left to nature—no brooding over mistakes, no exulting over success.

“Climbing high without fear, entering water without soaking, entering fire without burning”

This portrays the true person as at ease wherever they are, without ordinary fear of height, water, or fire and without ordinary harm from them. It is a metaphor for a mind aligned with the Dao, not a claim that they performed miraculous stunts.

“Their knowing could ascend and reach by the Dao” (zhi zhi neng deng jia yu dao)

“Zhi” overlaps with wisdom; “jia” here is read as “reach” or “rely upon.” Their insight had gone deep into the Dao, so they could “deng jia”—rise and arrive—in a state consonant with the Dao.

“The two ‘ruo ran zhe’ passages”

This is Zhuangzi’s rhetorical pattern: the two phrases “ruo ran zhe” each introduce a block—first the line on no regret and no self-congratulation, then the line on height, water, and fire—mirroring each other: one layer on inner attitude, one on realized bearing.


Brief summary

This oral gloss presents the true person as one who accepts lack, does not flaunt merit, and schemes little; who does not cling to success or failure; and whose heart matches the Dao, so there is neither terror nor stuckness. The heart of it is “entrusting oneself to nature” and “advancing deeply in the Dao,” not chasing outward feats or sensational powers.

其寝不梦神定也所谓至人无梦是也其觉无忧者与接为构而不以心斗也其食不甘即无求饱之意禅家所为塞饥疮是也其息深深真人以踵众人以喉道书修养之论其原在此神定则其出入人无梦是也其觉无忧者与接为构而不以心斗也其食不甘即无求饱之意禅家所为塞饥疮是也其息深深真人以踵众人以喉道书修养之论其原在此神定则其出入之息深深皆自踵而上至于口鼻所以有数息之法神无所养则其出入之息止于喉间而已静躁不同体于身者见之哇吐也嗌咽也内无真见言语只在口头所以易屈服于人此一句看参禅问话者方见得庄子之言有味如所谓虾蟆禅只跳得一跳便是若哇之易屈服也嗜欲者人欲也天机者天理也曰深浅者即前辈所谓天理人欲随分数消长也此一段一句是一条贯道书佛书蟆禅只跳得一跳便是若哇之易屈服也嗜欲者人欲也天机者天理也曰深浅者即前辈所谓天理人欲随分数消长也此一段一句是一条贯道书佛书皆原于此足见此老自得处不可草草读过惜不见大慧张平叔与之论此 古之真人不知悦生不知恶死其出不防其入不距翛然而往翛然而来而已矣不忘其所始不求其所终受而喜之忘而复之是之谓不以心捐道不以人助天是之谓真人
Interpretation

Plain-language commentary

On the daily life of the zhenren (true person)

When a zhenren sleeps, they do not dream, because the spirit is settled and the inner mind is clear—this is what the ancients meant by “the utmost person has no dreams.” When they wake, they are not weighed down by worry: in dealing with the world, they do not quarrel with others in the heart or fight with themselves. At meals they do not chase flavors; they eat only to still hunger, not to eat their fill. That aligns with what Chan circles call “plugging hunger and sores”—treating hunger and injury as ordinary, without extra craving.

Breathing should be deep and long. A zhenren’s qi rises from the heels all the way to mouth and nose; an ordinary person’s qi stops at the throat and breaks off. Daoist books on cultivation root themselves here: when the spirit is calm, inbreath and outbreath run deep and long, ascending from the heels—hence methods such as “counting the breath.” If the spirit is not nourished, breathing stays in the throat—shallow and restless. The gap between stillness and agitation shows in the body too: for example vomiting or choking—without genuine insight within, words float at the lips and one easily yields to outer circumstances. Chan speaks of “toad Chan”—one jump and it is finished—and of a frog that croaks once and gives in; that is the same kind of case.

“Shi yu” means human desire; “tian ji” means the principle of Heaven. Speaking of “deep and shallow” is what earlier masters meant: the principle of Heaven and human desire each wax and wane according to its own measure. In this passage, each line is one thread running through many sayings in the Daoist canon and Buddhist scriptures; the source can be traced back here in the Zhuangzi, which shows how much the Zhuangzi holds on its own and should not be skimmed past. It is a pity one cannot see figures such as Dahui Zonggao or Zhang Boduan debate this layer face to face with Zhuangzi.


The ancient zhenren (sense of the classic text)

The zhenren of old did not especially rejoice in living or especially hate death. Going out, they did not arm themselves on purpose; coming back, they did not resist on purpose—coming and going were free and at ease. They did not cling to where they came from or force a final destination. What they received they accepted with open joy; having forgotten, they could accept again. This is called not using the human heart to harm the Dao and not using human effort to stand in for Heaven—only then is one a zhenren.

此一段只说生死出生也入死也翛然而往翛然而来不忘所始不求所终受而喜忘而复即是生死两字不距者不逆也翛然随之之意也不忘所始不求所终即所谓原始要终故知死生之说也或问赵州曰和尚百岁后向那里去州云火烧过后成一株茅苇是不求其所终也受受其形也得之于天安得不喜复归也全而归之无所系念故曰忘而复之不以心捐道即心是道心外无道也不以人助天寿夭有命人力无所加也此十字当子细读之不捐者不斯须离之意 若然不以心捐道即心是道心外无道也不以人助天寿夭有命人力无所加也此十字当子细读之不捐者不斯须离之意 若然者其心志其容寂其颡頯凄然似秋暖然似春喜怒通四时与物有宜而莫知其极 志者有所主而定之意此书字义不可以语孟之法求之前辈云佛氏说性止说得心既曰异端矣又安得以吾书字义求之寂静也面壁十九年是其容寂处頯大也颡额也头容直故见其颡頯然凄然怒也暖然喜也无心而喜怒犹四时之春秋也极止处也物事物也随事而处各得其宜而无一定所止之地即所谓以接而生时乎其心者也 故圣人之用兵也亡国而不失人心利泽施乎万世不为爱人
Interpretation

This passage focuses on life and death: Birth and entering death—coming and going with ease; not forgetting where one began, not seeking where one ends; receiving form and rejoicing, forgetting and returning to it—that is what the two words “life and death” mean. “Not resisting” means not going against the flow; “at ease” means going along with it. Not forgetting the beginning and not seeking the end is what is called tracing the origin and grasping the end—hence understanding the doctrine of life and death. Someone asked Master Zhaozhou: “Where will the master go after a hundred years?” Zhaozhou replied: “After the fire burns out, a single stalk of reed grass remains”—that is not seeking the end. “Receiving” means receiving one’s form; having it from Heaven, how could one not rejoice? “Returning” means going back; returning whole, with nothing held in mind—hence “forgetting and returning to it.”

“Do not abandon the Dao with the heart”—the heart is the Dao; there is no Dao outside the heart. “Do not use human effort to assist Heaven”—long life and early death are fated; human power cannot add to them. These ten characters repay close reading. “Not abandoning” means never leaving it even for an instant.

“If so:” the mind has its aim, the countenance is still, the forehead broad—“aim” means having something to master and thus being settled. The wording of this book cannot be read with the methods used for the Mencius. An earlier master said that when Buddhist talk of nature only reaches as far as the mind, and one calls that heterodox, how can one still read our book’s terms that way? “Still” means quiet stillness; sitting facing the wall for nineteen years is that still countenance. Kui means large; sang is the forehead; the head held straight, so the broad forehead shows. “Grieved as if autumn, warm as if spring”—joy and anger harmonize with the four seasons, fitting each thing appropriately, with no one knowing their limit.

“Limit” means stopping place; “things” means affairs. Responding to affairs as they come, each finding its fit, with no fixed stopping place—that is what is meant by “meeting birth through contact and timing it in the heart.”

“Therefore when the sage employs the army:” he may destroy a state yet not lose the people’s hearts; his benefit and grace extend for ten thousand generations, without doing it out of partial love for people—

用兵毒天下也施泽爱天下也皆以无心行之则亡国者亦不怨被其德者亦曰帝力于我何有吾书亦有此意但庄子之笔形容处说得多过当如曰泽及万世而不为仁□万物而不为义皆是此 故乐通物非圣人也有亲非仁也天时非贤也利害不通非君子也行名失此意但庄子之笔形容处说得多过当如曰泽及万世而不为仁□万物而不为义皆是此 故乐通物非圣人也有亲非仁也天时非贤也利害不通非君子也行名失已非士也亡身不真非役人也若狐不偕务光伯夷叔齐箕子胥余纪他申徒狄是役人之役适人之适而不自适其适者也
Interpretation

Using military force to subdue the world is a harm to the world; spreading kindness and caring for the world is a benefit to the world. Yet whether one uses arms or bestows grace, the work should be done in a spirit of “no deliberate mind”—without claiming merit, without self-promotion, without tallying the deed as one’s own. Then even people whose states were destroyed will not heap all their resentment on the one who acted; those who received favor will feel, as the old song puts it, “What has the Emperor’s power to do with me?”—as if life were simply meant to be this way, not as if someone had specially favored them. The Zhuangzi says something of the same kind: the highest state is to have done great things yet seem not to have done them.

Zhuangzi’s style, however, loves hyperbole; his descriptions often go to extremes. When he says that grace extends through ten thousand generations yet is not called benevolence, or that benefit reaches all things yet is not called righteousness, he is still describing the same realm of wuwei (non-action) without fame—do not read that as rejecting benevolence and righteousness themselves.

Therefore: to take joy only in “being one with the ten thousand things” does not make one a sage; to favor only one’s kin does not make one truly benevolent; to chase the season and seek timely fortune does not make one truly worthy; to misjudge what is heavy or light in gain and loss does not make one a junzi (noble person); to pursue reputation and lose one’s original heart does not make one a shi (scholar-official); to wear out the body while the inner mind is untrue does not make one a fit “servant” (one used by others). People such as Wu Guang, Boyi, Shuqi, Jizi, Xuyu, Jita, and Shentu Di are often praised by later ages—but in Zhuangzi’s view they mostly acted as “servants serving others’ errands”: they conformed to what others judged “fitting,” without a “fitting” they could rest in for themselves; what they did was “doing the errands of those who serve others,” not “finding their own fitting ease.”

此数句乃是讥诮圣贤以形容真人之不可及其意盖谓世无真人不知至道自圣人而下无大无小皆非也乐通物者圣人之心以无一物不得其所为乐也通得所也不任物之穷通而以此为乐不足为圣人矣无心则无亲疎有疎有亲有心矣有心则非仁矣顺时而动知天时者也贤者以此为能亦非也就利违害君子能之未能通利害而为一则君子亦非矣士必为名名者实之宾为宾失已也故曰非士真自然也不知自然而劳苦以丧其身是役于人者非役人者也此皆过当之论故狐不偕而下如伯夷叔齐箕子皆遭讥讪以为役于人而失其已者故曰不自适其适其语虽偏其文劳苦以丧其身是役于人者非役人者也此皆过当之论故狐不偕而下如伯夷叔齐箕子皆遭讥讪以为役于人而失其已者故曰不自适其适其语虽偏其文亦妙狐不偕务光胥余纪他申徒狄皆古之贤者不自适不自得也
Interpretation

These lines mock the "sage, worthy, gentleman, and scholar" to set off the True Person (Zhenren) as beyond reach: if there were no True Person in the world, no one would know what the utmost Dao is; from the sage downward, regardless of rank, none measure up to the "True Person."

"Taking the thorough passage of things as joy" means the sage takes joy in each thing finding its place—"thorough" (tong) means each attaining its due. Yet not keeping the rise and fall of things in mind while taking this "thoroughness" as joy still falls short of being a sage.

Only "no-mind" (wuxin) has no near and far; once there is distance and closeness, there is "having mind"; having mind is not benevolence. Acting in accord with the times and knowing heaven's seasons, the worthy can do this, but if one prides oneself on this alone, one is still not a True Person. Seeking benefit and avoiding harm, the gentleman can do this; if one cannot see benefit and harm as one, the gentleman is still insufficient.

The scholar must seek fame; fame is the guest of substance—being a guest means losing one's own self, hence they are not called true scholars. The True Person is naturally wuwei (non-action); not knowing the natural, yet toiling body and mind to ruin one's life is being enslaved by others, not mastering others. The above are all pushed to the extreme in argument, so below, from "Hu Buxie" onward, even Boyi, Shuqi, Jizi, and the like are mocked as enslaved by others, losing their own self—hence "not self-suiting their own suitableness." The words are biased, but the literary force is artful.

Hu Buxie, Wuguang, Xuyu, Jita, and Shentu Di were all ancient worthies, yet they were "not self-suiting, not self-attaining."

古之真人其状义而不朋若不足而不承与乎其觚而不坚也张乎其虚而不华也邴邴乎其似喜乎崔乎其不得已乎滀乎进我色也与乎止我德也厉乎其似世乎謷乎其未可制也连乎其似好闭也悗乎忘其言也以刑为体以礼为翼以知为时以德为循以刑为体者绰乎其杀也以礼为翼者所以行于世也以知为时者乎謷乎其未可制也连乎其似好闭也悗乎忘其言也以刑为体以礼为翼以知为时以德为循以刑为体者绰乎其杀也以礼为翼者所以行于世也以知为时者不得已于事也以德为循者言其与有足者至于丘也而人真以为勤行者也 此一假形容之语尽有温粹处但说得太澒洞佛书中多有此状容也义而不朋中立而不倚也慊然若不足而不自卑承者奉承而自卑之意左传使之副者曰承与乎容与也觚德之隅也觚而不坚有德之隅而无圭角也张乎舒畅之貌也虚者有若无也不华者实也邴邴喜貌似喜而不喜崔下也处世应物有不得已之意亦犹闷然而后应也滀聚也充悦之貌其生色也睟然见于面故曰进我色止我德者即所谓虚室吉祥止邴喜貌似喜而不喜崔下也处世应物有不得已之意亦犹闷然而后应也滀聚也充悦之貌其生色也睟然见于面故曰进我色止我德者即所谓虚室吉祥止止也与乎自得之貌厉严毅之意望之厉然亦与世人同也而其中实有崔乎不得已之意故曰似
Interpretation

Plain-Language Explanation

Main idea of the original passage (Zhuangzi’s portrait of the “ancient True Person”):

In antiquity, the True Person who had attained the Way looked upright and impartial, as if somewhat lacking yet never servile or fawning; moved with ease, like the corners of a square vessel yet without harshness; open-hearted and empty like a valley, without showiness; gentle and at ease, as if pleased though not caught in ordinary joy; modest and restrained, as if responding only when there was no choice; full and gathered, with natural color showing in the face; leisurely and self-possessed, with virtue resting within rather than rushing outward; stern in bearing, as if no different from people in the world; lofty and hard to fathom, as if beyond control; continuous and deep, as if fond of closing in; vague and absent-minded, almost forgetting what had been said.


The commentator’s explanation:

This passage uses a chain of images to sketch the True Person’s bearing. The wording has a refined, warm polish, but the images pile up densely—a layered, cumulative style often seen in Buddhist scriptures.

  • “yi er bu peng” (upright yet not partisan): Standing straight, neither leaning nor taking sides.
  • “ruo bu zu er bu cheng” (as if insufficient yet not submissive): Seeming to fall short, yet not belittling oneself or flattering others (“cheng” suggests compliance and self-abasement, as in the Zuozhuan usage where the secondary says “cheng”).
  • “yu hu qi gu er bu jian” (easy like a gu’s corners yet not hard): “Gu” is an angular vessel, a metaphor for the edges of virtue—having angles without cutting others.
  • “zhang hu qi xu er bu hua” (expansive like emptiness yet not flashy): “Zhang” is ease and openness; “xu” is seeming presence and absence; inner fullness without outward display.
  • “bing bing hu qi si xi hu” (bright and easy as if pleased): Amiable like joy, yet not the joy of common emotion.
  • “cui hu qi bu de yi hu” (lofty-low as if with no choice): “Cui” suggests lowering and gathering; engaging the world as if only when unavoidable—also like holding back, then answering.
  • “chu hu jin wo se” (gathered, advancing my color): “Chu” is gathering and fullness; inner delight naturally shows in the complexion (what is called “sui ran jian yu mian”—serenity appearing on the face).
  • “yu hu zhi wo de” (at ease, stopping my virtue): This is the idea of “xu shi sheng bai, ji xiang zhi zhi”—in emptiness and stillness, virtue rests and is self-sufficient.
  • “li hu qi si shi hu” (stern as if of the world): “Li” is severity; from afar one looks as stern as anyone, yet inwardly there is the “no choice” modesty—hence only “si” (seems) worldly.
  • “ao hu qi wei ke zhi” (lofty as if uncontrollable): “Ao” is a bearing too high and deep to measure.
  • “lian hu qi si hao bi” (continuous as if fond of closing): Coherent and inward-turning, as if preferring to shut up and speak little.
  • “man hu wang qi yan” (dazed, forgetting one’s words): Light on speech, almost forgetting what one has said.

The lines that follow—“yi xing wei ti, yi li wei yi, yi zhi wei shi, yi de wei xun” (taking punishment as the body, rites as wings, knowledge as timeliness, virtue as the path)—carry another layer:

  • Yi xing wei ti (taking punishment/law as the body): Taking norms and measure as the root of personhood, hence “chuo hu qi sha”—when cutting is needed, it is done with breadth and due measure.
  • Yi li wei yi (taking rites as wings): Rites as support, so one can move and live in the world.
  • Yi zhi wei shi (taking knowledge as timeliness): Using discernment to hit the right moment, responding only when things arrive and there is no alternative.
  • Yi de wei xun (taking virtue as the path): Virtue as what one follows; some say it is like someone with feet walking up a hill while onlookers think it is mere toil on the road—a metaphor for following virtue while outsiders see only the outward track, not the root in de.

The commentator holds that the earlier descriptive phrases, though fine, run on with excessive fullness and repetition; the four lines on “xing, li, zhi, de” (punishment, rites, knowledge, virtue) point to the structure: outwardly much like the world, inwardly rooted in de, and responding to things only when there is no choice.

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