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《南華真經口義》Vol. 10

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About this page. The original text of 《南華真經口義》 Vol. 10 (Dongshen 洞神部, 32 volumes) is shown in Classical Chinese as transmitted in the Kanripo (Kyoto University) edition. An English interpretation of the 11 passages on this page accompanies it: select a passage or press “Interpretation” to show it. All texts in English

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南華眞經口義卷之十聲十     鬳齋林希逸    内篇應帝王(言帝王之道/舍應如此也) 齧缺問於王倪四問而四不知齧缺因躍而 大喜行以告蒲衣子蒲衣子曰而乃今知之 乎有虞氏不及泰氏有虞氏其猶藏仁以要 人亦得人矣而未始出於非人泰氏其卧徐 徐其覺于于一以己爲馬一以己爲牛其知 情信其德甚眞而未始入於非人  四間而四以不知答之即維摩經以不言  爲不二法門之意蒲衣或曰即被衣也莊  子所言人物名字多是虚言即鳥有亡是  公之類不必致辨齧缺悟其不言之意故  喜以告蒲衣蒲衣曰而乃今知之者言汝  于今方悟也而汝也泰氏古帝王也即大  庭氏之類藏懷也要結也以仁而結人之  心亦可以得人不出於如天而已謂其但  能與天爲徒也非人即天也故曰未始出  於非人未始出猶曰不過如此也不曰天  而曰非人皆是其弄奇筆處其卧徐徐安  也其覺于于自得也或以己爲馬或以已  爲牛皆置之不問言聽人誰何也其所知  皆實理情信皆實也其德在已皆天眞也  到此處天字又不足以名之是其任自然  而然又出於造化之上故曰未始入於非  人前曰出後曰入看他下字處帝王之道  任自然而已其名篇以應帝王意正在此 肩吾見狂接輿狂接輿曰日中始何以語汝
Interpretation

Nieque went to Wang Ni for instruction and asked four questions; Wang Ni answered all four with “I don’t know.” Nieque was so pleased that he ran to tell Puyizi.

Puyizi said, “Do you understand now? Youyushi could not match Taishi. Youyushi kept benevolence hidden in his heart and used it to win people over—he could gain their hearts, yet he had still not stepped beyond the realm of the ‘non-human’ (that is, Heaven). Taishi, when he slept, was easy and at ease; when he woke, he was free and unhurried. Sometimes he took himself for a horse, sometimes for an ox, and let people say what they would. His knowing was genuinely trustworthy, his virtue plain and natural—and he too had still not entered the realm of the ‘non-human.’”

(Note: Four questions and four “I don’t knows”—much like the Vimalakirti Sutra’s idea of taking silence as the gate of non-duality. Puyizi may be the same figure as “Piyi” (draped in robes); names in Zhuangzi are often invented and need not be pressed for historical identity. Nieque’s joy comes from grasping the point of “not speaking.” Youyushi used benevolence to bind hearts and could win people, but that is only “taking Heaven as one’s companion”—not yet “rising above the non-human”; the non-human is Heaven. Taishi lying down is leisurely, waking is easy; whether called horse or ox he accepts it; what he knows is real principle, his virtue utterly natural—at that point the word “Heaven” is no longer adequate; he is yielding to nature yet also above creation and transformation, hence “had not yet entered the non-human.” The earlier “rising above” and the later “entering” are Zhuangzi’s verbal craft. The way of emperors and kings is simply to yield to nature; that is the point of the chapter title “Responding to Emperors and Kings.”)

肩吾曰告我君人者以己出經式義度人孰 敢不聽而化諸狂接輿曰是欺德也其於治 天下也猶渉海鑿河而使蚉負山也夫聖人 之治也治外乎正而後行确乎能其事者而 已矣且鳥高飛以避矰弋之害鼷鼠深穴乎 神丘之下以避熏鑿之患而曾二蟲之無知  肩吾先見日中始後見狂接輿故接輿以  此問之經常也式法也義處事之宜也以  經式義皆出於已言以身爲天下法也度  人者化人也以身法而化天下故曰以已  出經式義度人經式義句法便與和豫通  同度音渡孰敢不聽而化言民皆聽順而  化之也欺德者言自欺也非實德也欲以  此治天下難於涉海鑿河而使蚉蟲負山  也鑿河即是疏九河之類治外者言化之  以心則無迹化之以身則有迹也正而後  行者順性命之理而行也能其事者盡此  自然之事也确乎斷乎也言其爲治斷斷  乎如此莊子之意主於無爲故其說如此  所以異於吾儒鳥高飛而避繒繳鼠深穴  而避熏鑿言有迹者必自累今不能行無  爲之化而至於有迹是其無知之愚猶不  若二蟲也二蟲鳥鼠也神丘猶曰神臯也 天根遊於殷陽至蓼水之上適遭無名人而 問焉曰請問爲天下無名人曰去汝鄙人也 何問之不豫也予方將與造物者爲人厭則 又乗夫莽眇之鳥以出六極之外而遊無何
Interpretation

Plain-Language Reading

Jian Wu said: Jie Jieyu told me that if a ruler takes himself as the standard, sets up norms and rules of conduct, and uses them to transform the people, who would dare not obey or fail to be moved?

Jie Jieyu said: That is deceiving oneself about De; it is not genuine virtue. To govern the world in this way is as absurd as trying to cross the sea, dig a river, and have a mayfly carry a mountain on its back.

When a sage governs, if he only works on the “outer form”: first straightening names and titles and then acting, thinking he has done everything that ought to be done—that is all there is to it.

Birds fly high to escape nets and arrows; xi mice dig deep holes under sacred mounds to escape smoke and digging. Yet you (meaning that kind of ruler who “makes the body the law”) lack even the instinctive wisdom of those two small creatures—they at least know that where there are traces there is burden, while you cannot achieve transformation through Wuwei (non-action); instead you leave traces everywhere. That is the folly of not knowing; you are worse off than those insects.


(Commentary on the meaning)

Jian Wu first met Rizhong Shi, then met Jie Jieyu, so Jie Jieyu questions him using the “way of governing” that Jian Wu had relayed.

  • Jing, shi, yi: Jing is constant law; shi is formal pattern; yi is what is fitting in handling affairs. “Jing, shi, and yi all come from oneself” means taking one’s own body and conduct as the model for the world.
  • Du ren: to transform the people; using “body-as-law” to transform the world is why the text says “using norms, patterns, and fitting conduct that issue from oneself to measure/transform people.” The phrasing parallels expressions like “harmony and ease” elsewhere.
  • Du: read like “to ferry across.” Who says the people will not listen or be transformed? The point is: on that account, everyone would obey and be moved—Jie Jieyu holds that this is wrong.
  • Qi de (“deceiving De”): fooling oneself; not truly possessing virtue.
  • She hai, zao he, wen fu shan: metaphors for how hard it is to govern the world by “legislating patterns” and “body-as-teaching.” Digging a river is like the great work of opening the nine rivers.
  • Zhi wai: transforming in the heart leaves no trace; transforming in the body leaves traces. “Correct first, then act” means acting in accord with the principle of nature and life; “one who can complete the task” means finishing what is naturally to be done; que hu means resolute, settled decision—if a sage governs like this, he only acts with this kind of fixed resolve.

Zhuangzi champions Wuwei, so he speaks this way, in contrast to the Confucian approach.

The bird-and-mouse analogy: whatever has visible traces necessarily burdens itself. Unable to carry out wordless transformation yet falling into traces everywhere is folly—worse than those two creatures. The two creatures are the bird and the mouse. Shen qiu means a sacred mound or holy knoll.


Another passage: Tian Gen and the Nameless One

Tian Gen was traveling at Yin Yang and came to the banks of the Liao River, where he met the Nameless One and asked, “May I ask how to govern the world?”

The Nameless One said, “Away! You vulgar fellow—what an improper question! I am about to join the Maker of Things in creating people; when I grow weary of that, I will ride the vast obscure bird and fly beyond the six extremes, to wander in the Village of Nowhere…”

有之鄉以處壙垠之野汝又何帠以治天下 感予之心爲又復問無名人曰汝遊心於淡 合氣於漠順物自然而無容私焉而天下治 矣  以爲天下爲問便非無爲而爲之道故以  爲鄙人之問而使我不豫不豫者不樂也  與造物爲人者言處於人世而順造物之  自然也厭足也飽也言遊於人世既已飽  足則將遊於造物之外萃眇之烏虚無之  氣也無何有之鄉壙垠之野皆言太虚無  極之地也何帛猶何故也注訓法字法亦  故也以治天下之問而感觸予之心所以  不豫此感字猶言激觸我也帛字崔氏作  爲亦是何故之意淡者淡也漠沖漠無  形之地也氣猶性也以此心此性皆合於  自然故曰遊心於淡合氣於漠前言無聽  之以心而聽之以氣看此氣字便合作性  字說順造物之自然而無容心則天下自  治矣何必爲天下乎有心則私矣比天根  再問而無名人又以其眞實語告之其名  曰無名人便見前後所稱人名皆是子虚  烏有之類所以後篇有寓言重言之說如  稱黄帝孔子顔子狂接輿則是借重於其  名以實已之說寓言則是無名人天根蒲  衣子之類 陽子居見老聃曰有人於此嚮疾彊梁物徹 疏明學道不倦如是者可比明王乎老聃曰 是於聖人也胥易技係勞形怵心者也耳也 虎豹之文來田猨但之便執斄之狥來藉如
Interpretation

Again Tian Gen asked: Since you already dwell in the realm of “being” and abide in the vast, boundless wilds, why must you still set your mind on governing the world?

These words stirred my heart, and Tian Gen questioned me once more. The Nameless One said: Let the mind roam in simplicity and detachment; let Qi (vital energy) merge with the vast and formless; follow the natural course of all things and keep no private designs in the heart—the world will then settle of its own accord.

To ask “how to govern the world” is already not the path of Wuwei (non-action) by which things are accomplished, so it sounded like an ordinary person’s question and left me displeased—“buyu” means the heart is not at ease.

“Living with the Creator as a human being” means living in the world while conforming to the Creator’s natural order. The earlier “satisfied,” “content,” and “full” mean that once one is content and replete in human life, one should roam beyond the work of the Creator—that is the place where vast, remote, formless Qi (vital energy) gathers. “The village of nowhere” and “the boundless wild” both point to the utmost void and the limitless. “Hebo” (or written “hebo”) means “why” or “for what reason.”

Tian Gen’s question about governing the world stirred my heart, hence my displeasure; here “gan” means to touch or move one. The character “bo” in some editions (e.g. Cui’s) reads “wei,” also meaning “why.” “Dan” is simplicity and detachment; “mo” is the vast, formless realm. Here “qi” is close to “xing” (nature): when heart and nature alike accord with the natural, it is called roaming the heart in simplicity and merging qi in the vast. The earlier line “do not listen with the heart; listen with qi” can likewise be read with “qi” as “xing.” Follow the Creator’s nature and admit no private self, and the world is at peace—why insist on “acting for the world”? Once there is private intent, it is no longer natural. This is the Nameless One’s frank reply after Tian Gen’s second question. Since the name is “Nameless,” the personal names before and after are largely fictitious; hence the later talk of “yuyan” (allegory) and “zhongyan” (weighty words)—borrowing Huang Di, Kongzi, Yanzi, Kuang Jieyu, and the like to state one’s view is called zhongyan; figures such as the Nameless One, Tian Gen, and Puyizi are yuyan.

Yang Ju went to see Laozi and asked:

There is someone quick in response, strong in sinew and bone, penetrating in grasp of things, clear and open in mind, and tireless in studying the Dao—can such a person compare to an enlightened king?

Laozi said: For a sage, this is merely someone who trades on skill for a living, is tied by technique, wears out the body, and startles the spirit.

“In the eyes of a sage, it amounts to no more than this.” “Xu yi ji xi” means exchanging petty skills and being bound by them; “lao xing chu xin” means exhausting the form and disturbing the heart. What follows—“the patterned hide of tiger and leopard draws the hunt, the agility of ape and monkey leads to capture, the hunting dog’s prowess is led out on a leash”—is a metaphor: tiger and leopard suffer for their markings, monkeys for their cleverness, skilled hounds for their ability—having a “strong point” becomes the very reason for entanglement. The same holds for one who is quick, forceful, penetrating, and clear while studying the Dao without rest: admirable yet also at risk, hence no fit likeness to an “enlightened king.” (“Er ye” means “and that is all.”)

是者可比明王乎陽子居蹙然曰敢問明王 之治老聃曰明王之治功蓋天下而似不自 己化貸萬物而民弗恃有莫舉名使物自喜 立乎不測而遊於無有者也  有人於此言有箇人如此也此數句是不  指名而譏侮孔子嚮疾趨走捷疾也彊梁  剛健也言敏於學而能力行也物事也徹  通也言事事通徹而所見虛明也疏虚也  以此而學道不倦可以比眀王否言學之  爲王者事如此可否胥刑徒也易更也猶  言卒更也胥易之名必古有此語如漢所  謂鬼薪是也技係者以工巧而係累枝術  之人也此二等人胥易則勞其形抜係則  怵其心言如此爲學身心俱勞是猶胥易  技係而已怵心言其心恐恐然也虎豹以  皮有文故招來田獵之人藉繩也所以束  縛者也斄合作狸狗能執狸與猨狙之便  捷可觀皆以招來束縛之禍言有能必自  累也執狸字又見天地篇若以有爲之學  可以爲王者事則是虎豹之類亦可比於  眀王矣此貶之之甚之辭也此三句文自  奇功蓋天下而似不自已即功成而不有  之意化貸萬物而民弗恃此朝野不知而  帝力何加之意貸施也言施化於民也凡  字訓釋亦就平仄處呼施字便與施字同 義天施地生雲行雨施天施雨施此二字  平仄雖殊其義則一有莫舉名者言其所  有人莫得而舉名之民無得稱之意使物
Interpretation

Someone asked: “Can a person like that be compared to an Illumined King?”

Yangzi Ju quickly pressed further: “May I ask how an Illumined King governs the world?”

Laozi said: “In the governance of an Illumined King, his achievements cover the world, yet it seems as though he himself is not doing the work; he transforms and nurtures the myriad people, yet the people do not depend on him or take credit for themselves; no one nominates or names him, and he lets all things delight in themselves; he stands in what cannot be fathomed and wanders in the realm of non-being.”


Commentary

This passage has Zhuangzi use Yangzi Ju’s question to Laozi about the realm of the “Illumined King’s governance.” Earlier, someone had boasted of mastering the Way and outstanding talent; Yangzi Ju seized the moment to ask what an Illumined King is like.

The “Illumined King” Laozi speaks of is not the sort of ruler whose merit towers above all and whom the people thank and praise, but rather one who:

  • Achievements cover the world yet seem not to be his own—merit spreads everywhere, yet it is as if he is not the one doing it
  • Transforms and nurtures the myriad people while they do not depend on him—he nurtures the people, yet they neither lean on him nor congratulate themselves
  • No one nominates or names him—no one puts him forward or calls him by a title; the people do not even know what to call him
  • Lets all things delight in themselves—allows each thing to find its own joy
  • Stands in what cannot be fathomed and wanders in non-being—stands where nothing can be measured and roams in the domain of nothingness

This is the realm of “governing through wuwei (non-action),” set against the boast that one is “quick to learn and able to practice,” “penetrating in every matter with empty clarity”—such gifted, meritorious people are like tigers and leopards hunted for their pelts, or raccoon-dogs bound because they are good at hunting: ability inevitably draws trouble. What can truly be compared to an Illumined King is the state in which achievement is complete yet one does not dwell on it, and one transforms the people without seeking to be praised.

 自喜言我雖無功可名而物自得其樂猶  韓文所謂人自得於江湖之外也不測者  不可測識也只是無有字立乎不測只是  遊於無有筆端鼓舞大率如此以上數段  皆是說其名篇應帝王之意 鄭有神巫曰季咸知人之死生存亡禍福壽 天期以歳月旬日若神鄭人見之皆棄而走 列子見之而心醉歸以告壺子曰始吾以夫 子之道爲至矣則又有至焉者矣壺子曰吾 與汝既其文未既其實而固得道與衆雌而 無雄而又奚卵焉而以道與世亢必信夫故 使人得而相汝  歲月旬日或遠或近神巫相者也其言皆  驗若神棄之而走者畏其言之驗也心醉  者心服也既其文盡其外也未既其實未  盡其内也而汝也汝未嘗盡見其實固以  爲能得道乎固字有未得謂得之意當以  語勢思之有雌雄而後有所生卵生也無  雄又奚卵言無心則無迹也此一句是喻  其心未能化故可以形見之意亢高也自  以其道爲高於世而欲人必信之此便是  有迹處便是未化處故神巫得以相汝 嘗試與來以予示之明日列子與之見壺子 出而謂列子曰嘻子之先生死矣弗活矣不 以旬數矣吾見怪焉見濕灰焉列子入泣涕 沾襟以告壺子壺子曰嚮吾示之以地文萌 乎不震不正是殆見吾杜德機也  濕灰者言其生氣將盡如灰已濕而欲滅
Interpretation

Plain-Language Reading of Nan Hua Zhen Jing Kou Yi (Oral Commentary on the Southern Flower Scripture)


I. General Remarks on the Chapter “He Who Would Be King”

Earlier it was said: “Though I have no merit by which to be named, things each find their own joy”—meaning that though one has no fame or achievement to speak of, the myriad things naturally each attain their delight. It is like what Han Yu meant by “each person finds ease beyond the rivers and lakes.”

“Unfathomable” means beyond measure and beyond guessing; it is the pair “non-being” and “being” standing in the unfathomable—roaming within non-being. Zhuangzi’s style is largely of this kind. The passages above all unfold the theme of this chapter, “He Who Would Be King.”


II. Liezi Meets the Spirit-Medium Jixian

In the state of Zheng there was a spirit-medium named Jixian, who could foretell a person’s death, life, survival, perishing, misfortune, blessing, longevity, early death, and the year, month, and day when the great limit would arrive—accurate as a spirit. When the people of Zheng saw him, they fled in fear.

Liezi (an important figure in the Daoist tradition, who often appears in Zhuangzi) met Jixian, was charmed and convinced, and on returning told his teacher Huzi (壶子): “At first I thought the Master’s Dao had reached the highest; now I know there is something still higher.”

Huzi said: “What I just showed you was only outward adornment; I had not yet shown you the inner substance. You fancy you have attained the Dao, but you have not truly attained it. You have only the female without the male—how can you hatch an egg? You take your Dao to contend with the world, and insist that others believe you; that is why someone could spy out your traces.”

Points for reading:

  • “Only the pattern, not yet the substance” — seeing the surface, not the core.
  • “Only the female among the flock, without the male” — only a yielding, yin aspect, no yang firmness; metaphor for having no fixed mind, hence no trace to find.
  • “Taking the Dao to contend with the world” — believing one’s Dao surpasses others and demanding belief; that is where traces appear and where one has not yet reached the realm of transformation.

III. First Showing to Jixian: Du De Ji (Sealed Virtue’s Mechanism)

Huzi had Liezi bring Jixian again the next day to observe him. The next day Liezi and Jixian saw Huzi come out; Jixian said to Liezi: “Alas! Your teacher is dying; he cannot live—he will not last ten days or half a month. I see him in a strange state, like damp ash.”

Liezi went in, tears on his breast, and told Huzi. Huzi said: “Just now I showed him di wen (earth’s pattern—stillness and centered holding). Meng hu bu zhen bu zheng—barely stirring, neither upright nor awry. He probably saw my Du De Ji (the mechanism of virtue sealed shut—the look of hidden vitality).”

“Damp ash” — vitality nearly spent; like ash soaked wet, the fire about to die.


IV. Second Showing: Tian Rang (Between Heaven and Earth)

The next day Liezi brought Jixian again. When they left, Jixian said to Liezi: “Fortunate! The Master has a slight sign of recovery; he may live.”

Liezi reported this to Huzi. Huzi said: “Earlier I showed him tian rang (the space between heaven and earth—the image of yin and yang joining). Ming zai ru chu—the name lies in entering and exiting (vitality stirring, as from death into life); dao zai teng chuo—the Dao is in leaping and bounding (surging life). He likely saw my Shan Qi Ji (the pivot of wholesome Qi—the mechanism where living breath shows itself).”


V. Third Showing: Tai Chong (Great Vacuity)

The next day they met Huzi again. On leaving, Jixian said to Liezi: “Good! The Master has auspicious signs today! He sits without moving, yet changes without limit—I have gauged him.”

Liezi told Huzi. Huzi said: “Earlier I showed him Tai Chong (great vacuous harmony). Mo sheng mo ying—neither to be overcome nor to win; no image of opposition. He likely saw my Heng Qi Ji (balanced Qi mechanism—yin and yang in tune).”


VI. Fourth Showing: Wei Shi Chu Wu Zong (Not Yet Revealing My Root)

The next day they met Huzi again. Jixian stood with him, not yet settled, then lost himself and ran away. Huzi said: “After him!”

Liezi could not catch him and reported to Huzi. Huzi said: “Earlier I showed him wei shi chu wu zong (not yet revealing my root): I was empty with him as with non-being, weiyi (winding and changing) without knowing who one is, yin yi wei feng (following things like wind on objects). Ruo ran zhe (one who is thus)—wu he lei yu ming (how could outer things burden one’s nature and life)?”

“Not yet revealing my root” — the fundamental is still undisclosed: one shows vacuity and formlessness, change without fixed pattern; Jixian could not measure it, so he fled in confusion.


VII. Huzi on the Dao

Liezi thought he had attained the Dao, but had not seen the real thing. Huzi’s four showings to Jixian were, in order:

OrderAspect shownWhat Jixian sawMeaning
OneDi wen (earth’s pattern)Du De Ji, like damp ashVitality sealed; the look of death
TwoTian rangShan Qi Ji, as if revivingVitality stirring; the look of life
ThreeTai ChongHeng Qi Ji, change without limitYin-yang in harmony; the look of transformation
FourNot yet revealing my rootLost himself and fledVacuous and formless; beyond measure

Core idea: One who has attained the Dao can display every sort of appearance yet has no fixed form; one who has not attained leaves traces, so the spirit-medium can read them. Huzi’s final showing—“not yet revealing my root”—is the root of vacuity and wuwei (non-action); Jixian could not fathom it, so he left.

This passage makes clear: the true Dao is formless; where there are traces, it is not the real. One in the realm of transformation can show death, life, and change while the heart is unburdened by things.

 也地文者此猶襌家修觀之名萌乎若生  而不生之意不震者不動也不正者不可  指定言也此不正字便與孟子必有事焉  而勿王同惟有若萌動而又不動故神巫  以爲濕灰灰活火也濕灰則是活火欲滅  之意杜德機亦是修觀之名德機生意也  杜閉也閉其機而不動故有生意欲滅之  狀季咸遂以爲弗活矣 嘗又與來明日又與之見壺子出而謂列子 曰幸矣子之先生遇我也有瘳矣全然有生 矣吾見其杜權矣列子入以告壺子壺子曰 曏吾示之以天壤名實不入而機發於踵是 殆見吾善者機也  杜權不動之動也權與機同但機微而權  則露矣於杜閉之中而動機已露故季咸  以爲全然有生意也天壤亦是觀名天田  也天上之田非壤之壤即自然之壤也猶  今修養家以舌間爲天津以頂上爲泥九  之類此是生意萌動而上之意名實不入  即是有無俱遣機發於踵言其氣自下而  上微而不可見故曰機菩者機猶言性之  動處也 嘗又與來明曰又與之見壺子出而謂列子 曰子之先生不齊吾無得而相焉試齊且復 相之列子入以告壺子壺子曰吾曏示以太 沖莫勝是殆見吾衡氣機也  太沖莫勝亦觀名也太沖太虚也莫勝不  可捉摸也衡者平也半也氣機之動至於  衡平一半之地而止則是半動半靜也神
Interpretation

“Diwen” (Earth Pattern) is also a term used in Daoist inner observation: it describes something that seems about to sprout yet has not truly sprouted—meaning “almost budding but not yet budding.” “Buzhen” (not quaking) means not stirring; “buzheng” (not fixing) means you cannot nail things down with a single fixed verdict or cling to one definitive statement. This “not fixing” matches the “wu zheng” (do not fix) in Mencius’s “there must be effort, but do not fix on an outcome”: apply the mind and act, but do not stare at a “correct” result.

Because there seems to be a slight stirring yet no visible movement, the spirit-diviner Ji Ji took it for damp ash—live embers nearly gone out, fire still there but seeming to die. Du Deji (Closing the Virtue Mechanism) is likewise a name in inner observation: du means to seal and hold down, ji the living pivot where life stirs; when you shut the gate of that life-force and keep it from running wild, it looks as if there is still a trace of vitality and also as if it is about to go out. Ji Ji concluded that Liezi’s teacher Master Hu (Huzi) “no longer seemed like a living man.”


The next day they came again. After meeting Master Hu, Ji Ji said to Liezi: Your master has run into me this time—his ailment is improving; he looks fully alive. I saw him in Duquan (sealed authority).

Liezi went in and told Master Hu. Master Hu said: What I just showed him was “Tianrang” (Heaven’s Soil)—again a name in inner observation. Tianrang: soil of heaven—not the “soil” people plow on earth, but soil in the sense of what is naturally so. Later cultivators often liken the tip of the tongue to Tianjin (Heavenly Ford) and the crown to Niwan (Mud Pellet) and the like, as images of life stirring upward from below. “Mingshi bu ru” (name and reality do not enter) means neither the side of being nor of non-being sticks in the mind; “ji fa yu zhong” (the mechanism issues from the heel) means qi faintly activates from the heel end, too fine to see—hence ji (mechanism). “Shanzhe ji” (the adept’s mechanism) is that almost-moving, barely detectable pivot in one’s nature.


Another day passed; Liezi brought Ji Ji again. Ji Ji came out and told Liezi: Your master is “not aligned” this time—I cannot read him. When he has tuned body and mind into alignment, bring me back to divine him.

Liezi went in and reported. Master Hu said: What I just showed him was “Taichong Mo Sheng” (the Great Surge none can master)—still an observation name. Taichong is the great void, supreme emptiness; mo sheng is that nothing can grasp or pin it down. When it reaches “heng qi ji” (balanced qi mechanism)—level, halfway—the qi has moved only to the point of “half level, half still,” half motion and half quiet. What Ji Ji saw was the stir of qi within that “balanced level.”

 巫以爲不齊言其半動半靜而不定也 鯢桓之審爲淵止水之審爲淵流水之審爲 淵淵有九名此處三焉  鯢桓止水流水皆是觀名今佛家以爲觀  而古人以爲淵淵有九名猶今觀音十二  觀也審信也言鯢桓信乎爲一觀止水信  乎爲一觀流水信乎爲一觀壺子到此方  說出向者所以示神巫者皆此淵也我有  九淵而方示其三言我之妙處猶有未盡  者審字作蟠非列子九淵之名皆全洪野  處謂列子勝於莊子恐未爲的論若此九  淵皆說盡則不得爲奇文矣可盡不盡正  是莊子之奇處精論文者方知之此章本  有四節就此說淵九名一項却入第四節  文章伸縮之法也 嘗又與來明日又與之見壺子立未定自失 而走壺子曰追之列子追之不及反以報壺 子曰已滅矣已失矣吾弗及已壺子曰曏吾 示之以未始出吾宗吾與之虛而委蛇不知 其誰何因以爲茅靡因以爲波流故逃也  已滅已失言不可見也未始出吾宗亦是  觀名虚虚無也委蛇順也若無物若有物  不知其如何故曰不知其誰何也茅音頽  茅靡者拉扱也波流者莽蕩也言其看我  不岀但見拉扱莽蕩故自失而走也 然後列子自以爲未始學而歸三年不出爲 其妻爨食豕如食人於事無與親彫琢復朴 塊然獨以其形立紛而封哉一以是終
Interpretation

The shaman thought things were not whole

The shaman took Liezi (or the state Huzi displayed) to be not whole—half in motion and half still, the mind unsettled, impossible to pin down.


“Ni Huan’s true guan is an abyss; still water’s true guan is an abyss; flowing water’s true guan is an abyss”; the abyss has nine names, and here are three

  • Ni Huan (the shadow of a great fish), still water, and flowing water are all spoken of here as a kind of guan (observation, contemplative seeing), while the ancients used yuan (the deep abyss) as a metaphor.
  • The abyss has nine names (nine modes of depth); only three are named here.
  • Later Buddhist discourse often lists many kinds of guan; the ancients grouped them under yuan, much as people today speak of twelve kinds of contemplation in Guanyin.
  • Shen here means truly, genuinely: Ni Huan truly is one guan, still water truly one guan, flowing water truly one guan.
  • Only at this point does Huzi make it plain: what had overawed the shaman were these “abysses”; I have nine depths, and now show only three—meaning the subtlety is not yet fully told.
  • Some read shen as pan (coiled) and argue from the Liezi that all nine abyss-names appear there, so Liezi surpasses Zhuangzi—that may miss the point. If all nine abysses were exhausted here, it would hardly count as marvelous writing; what could be said fully is left unsaid—that is Zhuangzi’s art; those steeped in it can feel it.
  • This chapter originally had four sections; placing “the nine names of the abyss” here and linking to the fourth section is a deliberate expansion and contraction in the structure.

Another day the shaman came again; the next day Liezi brought him to Huzi once more. Huzi stood there, his bearing unsettled; the shaman lost his nerve and ran.

Huzi said, “Chase him!” Liezi could not catch up and reported back. Huzi said: It has already vanished, already dispersed—you cannot overtake him. What I just showed him was the aspect that ‘has not yet revealed my root’—I met him empty and without fixed form, yielding and bending with every change (xu er weiyi). He did not know what I was at all; he only felt as if thatch blown flat by the wind (maomi) or waves rushing onward (boliu)—so he fled.

  • Already vanished, already lost: the trace cannot be seized.
  • Not yet having brought out my zong (root teaching): still one label among the “guan.” Xu: empty, not clinging to appearance. Weiyi: to follow along, to bend and respond to things. Seeming to be nothing yet seeming to be something—hence not knowing who or what he is (bu zhi qi she he).
  • Maomi: pulled down, overwhelmed. Boliu: vast, surging flow. The shaman said Huzi looked not whole; he saw only being dragged down and a roaring flood, and fled in terror.

Liezi then decided he had not truly entered the door. He went home and for three years did not go out; he fired the stove and cooked for his wife; he fed the pigs as reverently as if serving guests; in human affairs he strove to “neither join in nor meddle”; he stripped ornament and returned to plainness; he stood like a lump of earth, guarding only this bodily form; he sealed himself amid turmoil—and in that way he lived out his life.

(This is Liezi’s state after awakening: holding to simplicity and embracing the One—the outer form remains, but inwardly he has drawn apart from worldly business.)

 爲其妻爨代其妻執爨於鼎竈之間而不  出也食豕如食人言集神於内而不見其  外也於事無與親者言其雖爲事而不自  知若不親爲之也彫琢其聰明而歸復於  朴即前所謂墮枝體黜聰明也塊然獨以  其形立猶木偶人也封有廉隅也紛多也  其形已如木偶安有封畛廉隅之多乎一  以是終者言其終身常如此也一常如此  之意 無爲名尸無爲謀府無爲事任無爲知主體 盡無窮而遊無朕盡其所受乎天而無見得 亦虚而已至人之用心若鏡不將不迎應而 不藏故能勝物而不傷  莊子於此又說盡無爲而爲之事尸主也  不以名爲主是爲善無近名也府聚也前  言不慕事不謀焉用智即是此意有意於  謀則是謀聚於此可謀則謀無所用心故  曰無爲謀府事雖不可不爲而不以事自  任故曰無爲事任人雖不能無智而不以  智爲主故曰無爲知主心有所主則私矣  此四箇無字是教人禁止之意與論語四  勿字同體察也見也見道至於盡而無窮  極而心遊於無物之始故曰體盡無窮而  遊無眹眹兆也始也無眹即無始也天之  受我以是理吾能盡之又不自以爲有得  故曰盡其所受於天而無見得見其有得  則近於迹矣佛經所謂依幻說覺亦復如  是便是此意鋪說至此以一虚字結之此  一句甚有力虛即自然也無所著也鏡之
Interpretation

The preceding passage (on how the “spirit person” or perfected person moves through the world)

When cooking for his wife, he busies himself at the cauldron and stove yet does not put himself “on display”: at meals he treats the pig as he would a person, and in speech he keeps his spirit turned inward, with no outward craftiness. He need not meddle in every affair personally—though he acts, it is as if he did not know it, as if it were not he who did it. Having carved and polished cleverness, he returns to plain simplicity (that is what is meant earlier by “sloughing off the limbs and smearing away cleverness”); he stands alone in his bodily form, lump-like, like a wooden puppet. Borderlands, corners, and complexity have all faded for him—the form is already like a puppet, so how could there remain so many boundaries and sharp edges? Living this way for a lifetime is what “taking this as the way to the end” means.

The following passage (Zhuangzi again expounds Wuwei and “using the mind like a mirror”)

Here Zhuangzi again exhausts the meaning of Wuwei (non-action):

As for “name as corpse”: corpse here means the one who presides and holds charge. Not letting fame be one’s master is what it means to be good at not clinging to reputation. As for “storehouse of schemes”: storehouse means where things are gathered and kept. The earlier line “do not covet affairs, do not scheme” is the same idea—not using cleverness to hoard plots; when the mind schemes, it gathers in one place; when scheming is possible one schemes, when there is nothing to apply the mind to, one does not—hence being the Wuwei storehouse of schemes. As for “entrustment in affairs”: affairs cannot be left undone, yet one does not take affairs upon oneself as personal burden—hence Wuwei entrustment in affairs. As for “master of knowing”: a person cannot be wholly without intelligence, yet one does not let knowing be the master—hence Wuwei master of knowing.

When the mind has something it takes as master, partiality arises. These four “non-” teachings are meant to stop grasping and holding; they share one spirit with the “four don’ts” in the Analects, and should be pondered carefully.

“Embodying what is inexhaustible, roaming where there is no beginning”: zhen means sign or beginning; “no beginning” means no starting point. Seeing the Dao to the point of fullness yet without end, the mind roams at the beginning where there is no thing.

“Fully exhausting what one receives from Heaven without seeing it as gain”: the principle Heaven gives me, I can fully live it out, yet I do not regard it as something obtained; if one sees gain, one falls into traces. The Buddhist scripture’s “speaking of awakening in light of illusion is also like this” means the same thing.

Having unfolded the teaching this far, he gathers it with the single word “empty”—this closing line carries great weight: emptiness is naturalness, without clinging anywhere.

“The perfected person’s use of mind is like a mirror”: neither offering nor rejecting in advance, responding yet not storing—therefore able to prevail over things without being harmed. The sage’s mind is like a mirror: not actively courting, not deliberately turning away; when something comes, one responds; when the response is past, nothing is kept—so one can master outer things without being injured by them.

 於物妍强去來照者自照何嘗將之何嘗  迎之將送也照形而見形照物而見物謂  之應鏡中何嘗留之故曰應而不藏至人  之心如此所以於物皆無所忤故曰勝物  而不傷天道不爭而善勝便是此勝字若  鏡數句分明是解上面一虚字文勢起伏  豈不奇哉平澹之中自有神巧此等文字  也 南海之帝爲儵北海之帝爲忽中央之帝爲 混沌儵與忽時與遇於渾沌之地渾沌待之 甚善儵與忽謀報渾沌之德曰人皆有七竅 以視聽食息此獨無有嘗試鑿之日鑿一竅 七日而渾沌死  此段只言聰眀能爲身累故如此形容墮  肢體黜聰明則爲渾沌矣本是平常說話  粧出日鑿一竅之說皆奇筆也儵忽渾沌  皆是寓言不可泥著泥著則爲癡人前說  夢矣渾沌即元氣也人身皆有七竅如赤  子之初耳目鼻舌雖具而夫有知識是渾  沌之全也知識稍萌則有喜怒好惡是竅  鑿矣孟子曰大人不失赤子之心便是渾  沌不鑿也莊子翻說得來便如此詭怪但  又亦奇矣  莊子三十二篇分爲内外内篇有七皆以  三字名之自駢拇而下則只掇篇頭兩字  或三字爲名如學而爲政之例其書本無  精粗内篇外篇皆是一様說話特地如此  亦是鼓舞萬世之意但外篇文字間有長  枝大葉處或以爲内篇文精外篇文粗不
Interpretation

This passage conveys two main ideas: first, it uses the metaphor of a mirror to illustrate the state of mind of a perfected person (zhiren), and second, it employs the fable of Hundun (Chaos) to expound the principle of returning to primordial simplicity.

The first part employs the mirror analogy: A mirror reflects all things without rejecting what comes or clinging to what goes, presenting reality exactly as it is without attachment. The mind of a perfected person—one who has attained the Dao—functions similarly, engaging with all phenomena without fixation, thereby transcending external things without being harmed by them. This exemplifies how the Dao of Heaven (natural law) prevails effortlessly without contention. Zhuangzi's mirror metaphor vividly explains the previously mentioned concept of "xu" (empty luminosity of mind)—while the phrasing appears simple, it contains profound subtlety.

The second part recounts the fable of Hundun's perforation: The ruler of the Southern Sea was named Shu (Swift), the ruler of the Northern Sea was named Hu (Sudden), and the ruler of the Center was named Hundun (Chaos). Shu and Hu often visited Hundun, who treated them generously. Wishing to repay his kindness, they observed that all humans possess seven apertures (eyes, ears, mouth, nostrils) for seeing, hearing, eating, and breathing, while Hundun lacked them. They thus drilled one aperture each day for him, but on the seventh day, Hundun died.

This allegory employs hyperbole to show how intellectual cleverness can become a burden to the body. The admonition to "discard limbs and abolish cleverness" means returning to the state of primordial chaos. Just as infants possess sensory organs yet lack discriminating consciousness—maintaining complete chaotic wholeness—the moment knowledge and discrimination arise with their attendant emotions and preferences, it's as if apertures have been drilled into chaos. Mencius' statement that "the great person does not lose the heart of a newborn child" describes precisely this unperforated state of chaos. Zhuangzi expresses this through seemingly bizarre yet profoundly meaningful imagery.

Finally, the text notes the structure of the Zhuangzi text: comprising thirty-two chapters divided into inner and outer sections. The seven inner chapters all bear three-character titles (like "Free and Easy Wandering"), while outer chapters take their names from opening words (similar to the Analects' "Learning" or "Governing"). In truth, there's no substantive difference in philosophical depth between inner and outer chapters—this arrangement primarily serves to inspire later readers. However, as the outer chapters contain more digressive passages, some consider them less refined than the concise inner chapters.

 然也又有以七篇之名次第而說如曰先  能逍遥遊而後可以齊物論既能齊物又  當自養其身故以養生主繼之既盡養生  之事而後遊於世間故以人間世繼之遊  於世間使人皆歸向於我故以德充符繼  之内德既充而符應於外也人師於我而  我自以道爲師故以大宗師繼之既有此  道則可以爲帝王之師故以應帝王繼之  雖其說亦通但如此拘牽無甚義理却與  易之序卦不同善讀莊子却不在此但看  得中間又字筆勢出自無窮快活  文字最看歸結處如上七篇篇篇結得别  逍遥遊之有用無用齊物論之夢蝶物化  養生主之火傳也德充符之以堅白鳴人  世間之命也夫自是箇箇有意到七篇都  盡却粧撰儵忽渾沌一段乃結之曰七日  而渾沌死看他如此機軸豈不奇特中庸  一篇起以天命之謂性三句結以上天之  載無聲無臭至矣此亦是文字機軸但人  不如此看得破耳向侍先師講春秋至西  狩獲麟先師曰及其至也聖人有所不知  所以絶筆於此是夜散行西軒廊間忽問  曰今日獲麟處看得如何希逸應曰以中  庸聖人所不知之語斷之諸家所未有也  但經始於王正月終於西狩獲麟當時下  面若更有一句夫子亦必不書矣先師曰  如何希逸曰如此歸結一句更如何添得  先師不答而出已夜深矣即叩伯已丘丈
Interpretation

Some readers arrange their study of the Zhuangzi according to the titles of the seven inner chapters, in sequence: one must first attain “free and easy wandering” (xiaoyaoyou), and only then can one discuss “equalizing things” (qiwulun); once things are equalized, one should cultivate the self—hence “nourishing life” (yangsheng zhu); when that theme is exhausted, one walks in the human world—hence “human affairs in the world” (renjian shi); walking the world, one draws others toward oneself—hence “signs of full virtue” (de chong fu), inner virtue fulfilled and outwardly attested; when people take one as teacher while one takes the Dao as teacher, one reaches “the great lineage master” (da zong shi); possessing this Dao, one can be teacher to kings—hence “responding to emperors and kings” (ying diwang).

This way of reading can be made to work, but such forced sequencing yields little real insight; moreover, it is not the same approach as the Zhouyi’s “sequence of hexagrams” (xugua), which explains prior and posterior order among the hexagrams. To read the Zhuangzi well is not mainly about this; one must attend to the character “you” (again, further)—the brush moves from inexhaustible sources, and the reading is exhilarating.

In reading any text, what matters most is where each piece lands. The seven chapters above each conclude differently: Free and Easy Wandering ends on “useful and useless”; Equalizing Things ends on “dreaming of the butterfly” and transformation of things; Nourishing Life ends on “passing on the fire” (fuel and flame handed on); Signs of Full Virtue ends on “hard and white sounding forth” (the dispute over hard and white and reputation); Human Affairs in the World ends on “Fate, indeed!”—from here, each chapter has its own distinct aim. When all seven are finished, he deliberately composes the tale of Shu, Hu, and Hundun as a summation, saying “on the seventh day Hundun died.” Consider such pivotal structure (jizhou)—is it not extraordinary?

The Doctrine of the Mean (Zhongyong) opens with the three lines beginning “what Heaven mandates is called nature” and closes above with “how vast is Heaven’s bearing—without sound or smell”—already the utmost; that too is the text’s pivot. Ordinary readers simply fail to see through it. Long ago, while attending my late teacher’s lectures on the Spring and Autumn Annals, when we reached “the qilin was captured at Xi,” the teacher said: “At its utmost, even the sage knows what he does not know.” So there he laid down his brush and wrote no more. That evening after class, walking in the west corridor, he suddenly asked: “How did you read today’s passage on ‘capturing the qilin’?” Xiyi answered: “I would resolve it with the Zhongyong line ‘what the sage does not know’—something no other commentator had proposed.” Yet the Spring and Autumn classic begins with “the king’s first month” and ends with “the qilin captured at Xi”; had one more line been added below, the Master would not have written it either. The teacher asked: “How so?” Xiyi said: “With such a concluding line, how could another be added?” The teacher gave no reply and left. Late at night I knocked on Uncle Qiu Boyi’s door: “How about it?” (The teacher) had said: with such a concluding line, how could another be added?

 之門曰肅翁春秋讀得甚好某與朋友讀  春秋許多年未有如此見解者言之喜甚  至半夜方歸後兩日伯已丘丈與希逸言  之 南華眞
Interpretation

In a certain master’s lineage, someone remarked that Su Weng had an exceptional grasp of the Spring and Autumn Annals. Several of us friends had also studied the Spring and Autumn for many years, yet we had never reached such penetrating insight. The talk was so lively that we did not break up until midnight. Two days later, Elder Bo Yiqiu brought the matter up again in conversation with Xiyi.

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