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About this page. The original text of 《墨子》 Vol. 12 (Taiqing 太清部, 15 volumes) is shown in Classical Chinese as transmitted in the Kanripo (Kyoto University) edition. An English interpretation of the 10 passages on this page accompanies it: select a passage or press “Interpretation” to show it. All texts in English

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墨子卷之十二沛十一     貴義第四十七 子墨子曰萬事莫貴於義今謂人曰予子冠 履而斷子之手足子爲之乎必不爲何故則 冠履不若手足之貴也又曰予子天下而殺 子之身子爲之乎必不爲何故則天下不若 身之貴也争一言以相殺是貴義於其身也 故曰萬事莫貴於義也子墨子自魯齊即過 故人謂子墨子曰今天下莫爲義子獨自苦 而爲義子不若已子墨子曰今有人於此有 子十人一人耕而九人處則耕者不可以不 益急矣何故則食者衆而耕者寡也今天下 莫爲義則子如勸我者也何故止我子墨子 南游於楚見楚獻惠王獻惠王以老辭使穆 賀見子墨子子墨子說穆賀穆賀大說謂子 墨子曰子之言則成善矣而君王天下之大 王也毋乃曰賤人之所爲而不用乎子墨子 曰唯其可行譬若藥然草之本天子食之以 順其疾豈曰一草之本而不食哉今農夫入 其税於大人大人爲酒醴粢盛以祭上帝鬼 神豈曰賤人之所爲而不享哉故雖賤人也 上比之農下比之藥曾不若一草之本乎且 主君亦嘗聞湯之說乎昔者湯將往見伊尹 令彭氏之子御彭氏之子半道而問曰君將 何之湯曰將徃見伊尹彭氏之子曰伊尹天 下之賤人也君若欲見之亦令召問焉彼受 賜矣湯曰非女所知也今有藥此食之則耳
Interpretation

Mozi (founder of the Mohist school) expounds his core philosophy in the chapter "Esteeming Righteousness": nothing in this world is more precious than "righteousness" (yi). He offers an analogy: if someone offered to trade your hat and shoes for your hands and feet, you would certainly refuse, because limbs are more valuable than clothing; if someone offered the entire world in exchange for your life, you would likewise decline, because life is more precious than worldly possessions. Yet people will risk their lives over a dispute concerning moral principles, proving that righteousness surpasses even life itself in importance.

When someone advised Mozi: "Nowadays no one in the world practices righteousness, why must you persist alone in this difficult path?" Mozi responded with a farming metaphor: if only one out of ten people tills the land, that farmer must work even harder, because there are many mouths to feed but few working the fields. Precisely because no one in the world currently upholds righteousness, someone must take the lead in practicing it—how can this be discouraged?

When Mozi visited King Hui of Chu, the aging monarch had his minister Mu He receive the philosopher. Though Mu He praised Mozi's doctrines, he hinted: "The ruler is sovereign of all under heaven—might he not consider a commoner's proposals beneath him?" Mozi countered: when the Son of Heaven falls ill, he still takes medicinal herbs though they grow wild; the grain offered by farmers is still used in noble sacrifices. He cited how Tang the Completer (founder of the Shang dynasty) personally visited the commoner Yi Yin (renowned Shang minister). When attendants objected that "Yi Yin is a lowly man," King Tang replied: "You don't understand. If this medicine can cure illness, would we reject it for being mere weeds?" This shows truly valuable things should be adopted regardless of their humble origins.

Through these vivid analogies, Mozi emphasizes: practicing righteousness is like healing medicine or life-saving grain—it must not be dismissed because its advocate comes from humble circumstances. True wisdom lies in recognizing what is genuinely precious: that which we call "righteousness."

加聰目加明則吾必說而强食之今夫伊尹 之於我國也譬之良醫善藥也而子不欲我 見伊尹是子不欲吾善也因下彭氏之子不 使御彼苟然然後可也子墨子曰凡言凡動 利於天鬼百姓者爲之凡言凡動害於天鬼 百姓者舍之凡言凡動合於三代聖王堯舜 禹湯文武者爲之凡言凡動合於三代暴王 桀紂幽厲者舍之子墨子曰言足以遷行者 常之不足以遷行者勿常以遷行而常之是 蕩口也子墨子曰必去六辟嘿則思言則誨 動則事使者三代御必爲聖人必去喜去怒 去樂去悲去愛而用仁義手足口鼻耳從事 於義必爲聖人子墨子謂二三子曰爲義而 不能必無排其道譬若匠人之斲而不能無 排其繩子墨子曰世之君子使之爲一□之 宰不能則辭之使爲一國之相不能而爲之 豈不悖哉子墨子曰今瞽曰鉅者白也黔者 墨也雖明目者無以易之兼白黑使瞽取焉 不能知也故我曰瞽不知白墨者非以其名 也以其取也今天下之君子之名仁也雖禹 湯無以易之兼仁與不仁而使天下之君子 取焉不能知也故我曰天下之君子不知仁 者非以其名也亦以其取也子墨子曰今事 之用身不若商人之用一布之慎也商人用 一布布不敢繼苟而讐焉必擇良者今士之 用身則不然意之所欲則爲之厚者入刑罰
Interpretation

Mozi said: If I could make my ears hear more clearly and my eyes see more sharply, I would gladly strive to achieve it. Now, Yi Yin (the virtuous minister of the Shang dynasty) is to our state what a skilled physician and good medicine are to a patient. If you prevent me from meeting Yi Yin, it is tantamount to denying me the chance to improve myself. Thereupon, Mozi had Peng's son disembark from his carriage and no longer allowed him to drive. Only by acting this way was it deemed appropriate.

Mozi proposed principles for human conduct: Any speech or action that benefits Heaven, the spirits, and the people should be pursued; any speech or action that harms Heaven, the spirits, and the people should be abandoned. Words and deeds that align with the standards of sage-kings like Yao, Shun, Yu, Tang of Shang, King Wen of Zhou, and King Wu of Zhou should be followed; those that align with the ways of tyrants like Jie of Xia, Zhou of Shang, King You of Zhou, and King Li of Zhou should be rejected.

Mozi emphasized the importance of matching words with deeds: Only words that can be put into practice are worth advocating; words that cannot be practiced should not be frequently spoken. To speak without acting is mere empty talk. Mozi advised against six kinds of emotional biases: In silence, one should contemplate; in speech, one should teach; in action, one should accomplish. If one can exercise self-restraint like the sage-kings of the Three Dynasties (Xia, Shang, Zhou), one may become a sage. Excessive joy, anger, pleasure, sorrow, and love must be eliminated, and the movements of hands, feet, mouth, nose, and ears should be guided by benevolence and righteousness—only then can one become a sage.

Mozi told his disciples: The practice of righteousness cannot be entirely free of obstacles, just as a carpenter cutting wood cannot avoid occasionally deviating from the guideline. Mozi criticized the gentlemen of his time: When offered minor official posts, they decline because they feel incompetent, yet they dare to take on the heavy responsibility of being a prime minister—is this not absurd?

Using the analogy of a blind person distinguishing colors, Mozi explained: If a blind person says, "Ju is white, Qian is black," even those with sight cannot refute them. But if white and black objects are mixed together and the blind person is asked to distinguish them, they cannot do so. Therefore, I say the blind do not understand black and white—not because they don't know the names, but because they cannot practically discern them. When gentlemen of the world today discuss "benevolence," even great sages like Yu and Tang could not refute them. But when benevolent and non-benevolent matters are mixed together for them to judge, they cannot tell the difference. Thus, I say these gentlemen do not understand benevolence—not because they don't know the concept, but because they cannot apply it in practice.

Finally, Mozi criticized the behavior of scholars of his time: People today treat their own bodies with less care than merchants treat a bolt of cloth. When merchants trade a piece of cloth, they dare not decide lightly—they must choose the best. Yet scholars today act recklessly with their own conduct, doing whatever they please, with some even committing serious crimes punishable by law.

薄者被毁醜則士之用身不若商人之用一 布之慎也子墨子曰世之君子欲其義之成 而助之脩其身則愠是猶欲其墻之成而人 助之築則愠也豈不悖哉子墨子曰古之聖 王欲傳其道於後世是故書之竹帛鏤之金 石傳遺後世子孫欲後世子孫法之也今聞 先王之遺而不爲是廢先王之傳也子墨子 南遊使衛關中載書甚多弦唐子見而怪之 曰吾夫子教公尚過曰揣曲直而已今夫子 載書甚多何有也子墨子曰昔者周公旦朝 讀書百篇夕見漆十士故周公旦佐相天子 其脩至於今翟上無君上之事下無耕農之 難吾安敢廢此翟聞之同歸之物信有誤者 然而民聽不鈞是以書多也今若過之心者 數逆於精微同歸之物既已知其要矣是以 不教以書也而子何怪焉子墨子謂公良桓 子曰衛小國也處於齊晋之間猶貧家之處 於富家之間也貧家而學富家之衣食多用 則速亡必矣今簡子之家飾車數百乘馬食 菽粟者數百匹婦人衣文繡者數百人吾取 飾車食馬之費與繡衣之財以畜士必千人 有餘若有患難則使百人處於前數百於後 與婦人數百人處前後孰安吾以爲不若畜 士之安也子墨子仕於衛所仕者至而反子 墨子曰何故反對曰與我言而不當曰待女 以千盆授我五百盆故去之也子墨子曰授
Interpretation

Mozi observed that those with shallow virtue (De) become indignant when criticized, showing that scholars treat their self-cultivation with less care than merchants treat bolts of cloth. While merchants meticulously examine the quality of goods during transactions, scholars resent having their shortcomings pointed out.

Mozi pointed out that contemporary gentlemen claim to uphold righteousness (Dao), yet grow angry when others help them cultivate virtue—as absurd as wanting to build a sturdy wall while resenting those who assist in its construction. The ancient sage-kings inscribed admonitions on bamboo slips, bronze vessels, and stone steles precisely to ensure their Dao legacy would endure. When later generations hear these ancestral teachings yet fail to practice them, they sever the transmission of the ancient kings' wisdom.

When traveling south to Wei state with numerous books, Mozi was questioned by disciple Xian Tangzi: "Master, you taught Gongshang Guo that 'grasping fundamental principles suffices'—why then carry so many texts?" Mozi explained: "The Duke of Zhou read hundreds of documents each morning and received seventy worthies each evening, thus assisting the Son of Heaven in establishing achievements that endure. I bear no royal duties nor till fields for sustenance—how could I neglect study? Though truth is ultimately singular, people comprehend it diversely, hence we need extensive texts for clarification. Those like Gongshang Guo who grasp subtle essentials require few books, but ordinary minds need broad learning to understand."

Admonishing Wei minister Gongliang Huanzi, Mozi said: "Wei, sandwiched between powerful Qi and Jin, resembles a poor household dwelling among millionaires. Should the poor imitate lavish spending, they'll soon perish. You maintain hundreds of ornate carriages, grain-fed steeds, and silk-robed maids—resources sufficient to sustain a thousand scholars. In crisis, would you rather have maids forming human screens or a thousand warriors guarding you?"

Later, when a disciple Mozi recommended for Wei office resigned, complaining: "They promised a thousand measures of grain but gave only five hundred," Mozi rebuked him: "If your compensation exceeded your worth, the ruler lacked wisdom; if demanding more than your due, you lacked righteousness (Yi). Never abandon principle for material gain."

子過千盆則子去之乎對曰不去子墨子曰 然則非爲其不審也爲其寡也子墨子曰世 俗之君子視義士不若負粟者今有人於此 負粟息於路側欲起而不能君子見之無長 少貴賤必起之何故也曰義也今爲義也君 子奉承先王之道以語之縱不說而行又從 而非毁之則是世俗之君子之視義士也不 若視負粟者之子墨子曰商人之四方市賈 信徙雖有關梁之難盗賊之危必爲之今士 坐而言義無關梁之難盗賊之危此爲信徙 不可勝計然而不爲財士之計利不若商人 之察也子墨子北之齊遇日者日者曰帝以 今日殺黑龍於北方而先生之色黑不可以 北子墨子不聽遂北而反爲日者曰我謂先 生不可以北子墨子曰南之人不得北北之 人不得南其色有黑者有白者何故皆不遂 也且帝以甲乙殺青龍於東方以丙丁殺赤 龍於南方以庚辛殺白龍於西方以壬癸殺 黑龍於北方若用子之言則是禁下行者也 是圍心而虚天下也子之言不可用也子墨 子曰吾言足用矣舍言革思者是猶舍穫而 □粟也以其言非吾言者是猶以卵投石也 盡天下之卵其石猶是也不可毁也    公孟第四十八 公孟子謂子墨子曰君子共已以待問焉則 言不問焉則止譬若鍾然扣則鳴不扣則不 鳴子墨子曰是言有三物焉子乃今知其一
Interpretation

Mozi once posed an example to his disciples: If someone passed by you a thousand times carrying a basin, would you drive them away for that? The disciples replied they would not. Mozi pointed out that people don't reject things simply because they're repeated—what matters is the inherent value of the matter, not its frequency.

Mozi criticized the social attitudes of his time: people respected laborers carrying grain but didn't value those who practiced righteousness (Yi). He gave the example that when seeing someone exhausted by the roadside from carrying grain, everyone—whether noble or common—would help, recognizing this as an act of righteousness. Yet when someone expounded the Way of the Ancient Kings (the governing principles of sage rulers), people would not only reject it but slander it. This showed society valued righteousness less than physical labor.

Using merchants as contrast, Mozi observed: merchants brave checkpoints, treacherous roads, and bandits in pursuit of profit, while scholars (intellectuals) merely talk about righteousness without action. This proved scholars understood "benefit" (Li) less thoroughly than merchants.

When traveling north to Qi, Mozi encountered a diviner (Ri Zhe) who warned: "The Celestial Lord (Tian Di) is slaying the black dragon in the north today, and your dark complexion makes northward travel inauspicious." Mozi retorted: "By this logic, southerners couldn't go north, northerners couldn't go south, and people of different complexions would all be restricted—wouldn't this paralyze the world?" He likened such superstitions to throwing eggs at stone—even all the eggs in the world couldn't damage the stone.

In another dialogue, Gong Mengzi (a Confucian scholar) told Mozi: "The noble man should be like a bell—sounding only when struck, remaining silent when untouched." Mozi responded that this analogy captured just one of three situations (implying Confucian limitations), as there were other circumstances like proactive teaching.

身也又未知其所謂也若大人行淫暴於國 家進而諫則謂之不遜因左右而獻諫則謂 之言議此君子之所疑惑也若大人爲政將 因於國家之難譬若機之將發也然君子之 必以諫然而大人之利若此者雖不扣必鳴 者也若大人舉不義之異行雖得大巧之經 可行於軍旅之事欲攻伐無罪之國有之也 君得之則必用之矣以廣辟土地著稅僞材 出必見辱所攻者不利而攻者亦不利是兩 不利也若此者雖不扣必鳴者也且子曰君 子共已待問焉則言不問焉則止譬若鍾然 扣則鳴不扣則不鳴今未有扣子而言是子 之謂不扣而鳴邪是子之所謂非君子邪公 孟子謂子墨子曰實爲善人孰不知譬若良 玉處而不出有餘精譬若美女處而不出人 争求之行而自衒人莫知取也今子徧從人 而說之何其勞也子墨子曰今夫世亂求美 女者衆美女雖不出人多求之今求善者寡 不强說人人莫之知也且有二生於此善星 一行爲人筮者與處而不出者其精孰多公 孟子曰行爲人筮者其精多子墨子曰仁義 鈞行說人者其功善亦多何故不行說人也 公孟子義章甫搢□儒服而以見子墨子曰 君子服然後行乎其行然後服乎子墨子曰 行不在服公孟子曰何以知其然也子墨子 曰昔者齊桓公高冠博帶金劔木盾以治其
Interpretation

This passage from Mozi discusses the art of remonstration and methods of spreading virtuous teachings. In the dialogue, Mozi presents two key arguments:

Regarding remonstration, Mozi employs the metaphor of "a bell ringing without being struck": Just as a bell may sound without being struck, when rulers (daren) impose tyrannical governance or prepare to wage unjust wars, exemplary persons (junzi) should offer counsel even without being asked. Such tyranny resembles a crossbow ready to fire—it will inevitably bring national calamity. Attacking innocent states creates lose-lose outcomes for both aggressors and victims.

On propagating virtuous teachings, Gong Mengzi (a Confucian scholar) argues that good deeds should attract followers naturally like precious jade or beautiful women, needing no active promotion. Mozi counters this by observing: In our chaotic era, while many pursue beautiful women (who remain sought-after even in seclusion), few seek virtuous teachings. Without active persuasion, people won't understand them. Consider two equally skilled diviners—the one who actively practices benefits others more than the recluse. The same applies to the Dao of humaneness and righteousness (renyi zhi dao)—active advocacy generates greater merit.

In debating attire versus conduct, Gong Mengzi claims gentlemen must first wear status-appropriate clothing to cultivate corresponding behavior. Mozi directly refutes this, asserting conduct is independent of garments. Citing Duke Huan of Qi as proof—who governed effectively while wearing tall caps, broad sashes, golden swords, and wooden shields—he demonstrates that statecraft depends on virtue (de), not costumes.

國其國治昔者晋文公大布之衣䍧羊之裘 韋以帶劔以治其國其國治昔者楚莊王鮮 冠組纓絳衣慱袍以治其國其國治昔者越 王句踐剪髮文身以治其國其國治此四君 者其服不同其行猶一也翟以是知行之不 在服也公孟子曰善吾聞之曰宿善者不祥 請舍□易章甫復見夫子可乎子墨子曰請 因以相見也若不將舍□易章甫而後相見 然則行果在服也公孟子曰君子必古言服 然後仁子墨子曰昔者商王紂卿士費仲爲 天下之暴人箕子微子爲天下之聖人此同 言而或仁不仁也周公旦爲天下之聖人關 叔爲天下之暴人此同服或仁或不仁然則 不在古服與古言矣且子法周而未法夏也 子之古非古也公孟子謂子墨子曰昔者聖 王之列也上聖立爲天子其次立爲卿大夫 今孔子慱於詩書察於禮樂詳於萬物若使 孔子當聖王則豈不以孔子爲天子哉子墨 子曰夫知者必尊天事鬼愛人用節合焉爲 知矣今子曰孔子慱於詩書察於禮樂詳於 萬物而曰可以爲天子是數人之齒而以爲 富公孟子曰貧富壽夭□然在天不可損益 又曰君子必學子墨子曰教人學而執有命 是猶命人葆而去亦冠也公孟子謂子墨子 曰有義不義無祥不祥子墨子曰古者聖王 皆以鬼神爲神眀而爲禍福執有祥不祥是
Interpretation

This dialogue records a debate between Mozi (founder of Mohism) and Gong Mengzi (a Confucian scholar) concerning governance and external formalities. Through historical examples, Mozi demonstrates that effective governance does not depend on a ruler's attire.

Duke Wen of Jin governed his state peacefully while wearing coarse cloth garments and sheepskin coats, with a straw rope belt and sword at his waist. King Zhuang of Chu ruled his kingdom stably while wearing bright ceremonial caps and magnificent crimson robes. King Goujian of Yue maintained order while sporting cropped hair and body tattoos. Though these four rulers dressed differently, their governing principles were identical—proving that effective administration has nothing to do with clothing.

Gong Mengzi advocated adhering to ancient conventions, insisting that wearing antique costumes and speaking archaic language constituted virtue (De). Mozi refuted this by citing counterexamples: King Zhou of Shang and his minister Fei Zhong used identical speech, yet the former was tyrannical while the latter virtuous; the Duke of Zhou and Guan Shu wore identical attire, yet the former was sagely while the latter oppressive. This demonstrated that virtue bears no relation to wearing ancient clothes or speaking old-fashioned words.

When Gong Mengzi proposed that Confucius—being versed in poetry, history, rites and music—would have become Son of Heaven had he lived in sage-kings' times, Mozi derided this notion as absurd as counting another's teeth to claim personal wealth. True wisdom, Mozi argued, lay in "revering Heaven, serving spirits, loving people, and practicing frugality."

Their final debate concerned fate: Gong Mengzi maintained that wealth, poverty, longevity and premature death were heaven-decreed, yet insisted gentlemen must study. Mozi mocked this contradiction as akin to tying up someone's hair only to remove their hat. Regarding retribution, Mozi noted all ancient sage-kings believed spirits could bestow blessings or calamities, stressing that "righteousness" and "unrighteousness" inevitably brought corresponding "auspicious" and "inauspicious" consequences.

This exchange embodies core Mohist concepts of "universal impartiality" and "rejecting fatalism," opposing Confucian overemphasis on ritual formalities while emphasizing practical governance and the religious perspective of "Heaven's will" and "honoring spirits."

以政治而國安也自桀紂以下皆以鬼神爲 不神明不能爲禍福執無祥不祥是以政亂 而國危也故先王之書子亦有之曰亦傲也 出於子不祥此言爲不善之有罰爲善之有 賞子墨子謂公孟子曰喪禮君與父母妻後 子死三年喪服伯父叔父兄弟期族人五月 姑姊舅甥皆有數月之喪或以不喪之間誦 詩三百弦詩三百歌詩三百舞詩三百若用 子之言則君子何曰以聽治庶人何日以從 事公孟子曰國亂則治之治則爲禮樂國治 則從事國富則爲禮樂子墨子曰國之治治 之廢則國之治亦廢國之富也從事故富也 從事廢則國之富亦廢故雖治國勸之無饜 然後可也今子曰國治則爲禮樂亂則治之 是譬猶噎而穿井也死而求醫也古者三代 暴王桀紂幽厲薾爲聲樂不顧其民是以身 爲刑僇國爲戾虛者皆從此道也公孟子曰 無鬼神又曰君子必學祭祀子墨子曰執無 鬼而學祭禮是猶無客而學客禮也是猶無 魚而爲魚罟也公孟子謂子墨子曰子以三 年之喪爲非子之三日之喪亦非也子墨子 曰子以三年之喪非三日之喪是猶倮謂橛 者不恭也公孟子謂子墨子曰知有賢於人 則可謂知乎子墨子曰愚之知有以賢於人 而愚豈可謂知矣哉公孟子曰三年之喪學 吾之慕父母子墨子曰夫嬰兒子之知獨慕
Interpretation

In this dialogue, Mozi (founder of the Mohist school) critiques Confucian ritual and music systems. He argues that since the tyrannical reigns of rulers like Jie of Xia and Zhou of Shang, leaders mistakenly believed spirits lacked efficacy—incapable of bestowing blessings or curses, indifferent to omens—leading to political chaos and state collapse. The ancient sage-kings' classic Zi records: "Arrogance invites calamity," demonstrating that evil deeds bring punishment while good deeds receive rewards.

When debating funeral rites with Gong Mengzi (a Confucian scholar), Mozi points out: According to Confucian rules, mourning lasts three years for deceased rulers, parents, wives, or eldest sons; one year for uncles and brothers; months for other relatives. Yet Confucians also advocate reciting, playing, singing, and dancing the Book of Songs during non-mourning periods. Mozi challenges: If so, when would gentlemen govern? When would commoners farm?

Gong Mengzi responds: "Govern when the state is chaotic; practice rituals and music when at peace. Farm when stable; practice rituals and music when prosperous." Mozi counters: State governance requires sustained effort, just as wealth demands continuous labor—how can one focus solely on rituals after achieving order? This resembles digging a well only when thirsty or seeking medicine only when ill. He cites tyrants like Jie of Xia, Zhou of Shang, King You, and King Li of Zhou, who indulged in music while neglecting welfare, leading to their demise.

Their debate extends to spirits: Gong Mengzi claims "spirits don’t exist" yet insists "gentlemen must study sacrifices." Mozi satirizes this as learning hospitality without guests or weaving nets without fish. Regarding mourning duration, Mozi compares Gong Mengzi’s critique of three-year mourning while defending three-day rites to "a naked man mocking someone with tattered clothes." Finally, discussing whether specialized knowledge constitutes true wisdom, Mozi notes fools may surpass average people in certain areas yet remain foolish overall. When Gong Mengzi defends three-year mourning as "honoring parents," Mozi retorts: Does an infant’s instinctive attachment to parents count as wisdom?

This exchange crystallizes Mohist tenets like "frugality," "modest funerals," "condemning music," and "affirming spirits," opposing Confucian ceremonial excess while advocating pragmatic governance.

父母而已父母不可得也然號而不止此亦 故何也即愚之至也然則儒者之知豈有以 賢於嬰兒子哉子墨子曰問於儒者何故爲 樂曰樂以爲樂也子墨子曰子未我應也今 我問曰何故爲室曰冬避寒焉夏避暑焉室 以爲男女之别也則子告我爲室之故矣今 我問曰何故爲樂曰樂以樂也是猶曰何故 爲室曰室以爲室也子墨子謂程子曰儒之 道足以喪天下者四政焉儒以爲不明以鬼 爲不神天鬼不說此足以喪天下又厚葬久 喪重爲棺槨多爲衣衾送死若徙三年哭泣 扶後起杖後行耳無聞目無見此足以喪天 下又弦歌鼓舞習爲聲樂此足以喪天下又 以命爲有貧富壽夭治亂安危有極矣不可 損益也爲上者行之必不聽治矣爲下者行 之必不從事矣此足以喪天下程子曰甚矣 先生之毁儒也子墨子曰儒固無此各四政 者而我言之則是毁也今儒固有此四政者 而我言之則非毁也告聞也程子無辭而出 子墨子曰迷之反後坐進復曰鄕者先生之 言有可聞者焉若先生之言則是不譽禹不 毁桀紂也子墨子曰不然夫應孰辭稱議而 爲之敏也厚攻則厚吾薄攻則薄吾應孰辭 而稱議是猶荷轅而擊蛾也子墨子與程子 辯稱於孔子程子曰非儒何故稱於孔子也 子墨子曰是亦當而不可易者也今鳥聞熱
Interpretation

This dialogue records a debate between Mozi (founder of Mohism) and Master Cheng (a Confucian scholar) regarding Confucian doctrines. Mozi criticized four Confucian tenets that he believed would lead to societal decline:

First was their attitude toward spirits. The Confucians claimed spiritual matters were unclear and denied the existence of ghosts and deities, which Mozi argued displeased the celestial and earthly spirits. He believed this attitude would corrupt social morality.

Second concerned funeral customs. Confucians advocated elaborate burials with multiple coffins, abundant burial garments and quilts, three years of mourning involving constant weeping, walking with canes, and becoming deaf and blind from grief. Mozi considered such excessive mourning rituals would exhaust the people's livelihood.

Third involved musical activities. Confucians enthusiastically promoted string instruments, singing, drumming, and dancing—practices Mozi believed would make people indulge in pleasure while neglecting proper duties.

Fourth was their concept of fate. Confucians taught that wealth/poverty, longevity/early death, and social order/chaos were predetermined and unchangeable. Mozi argued that if rulers believed this, they wouldn't govern diligently; if commoners believed it, they wouldn't work hard—inevitably causing great disorder.

When Master Cheng accused Mozi of slandering Confucianism, Mozi responded: "If Confucians truly don't hold these four doctrines, then my words would be slander. But if they do hold them, I'm merely stating facts."

In subsequent debate, Mozi illustrated his position with metaphors—like "using a carriage shaft to swat mosquitoes" (making a mountain out of a molehill)—while acknowledging that Confucius did express undeniable truths. Master Cheng retorted: "Since you oppose Confucianism, why quote Confucius?" Mozi replied: "Correct principles should be recognized as such, just as birds naturally seek shade when encountering heat waves."

旱之憂則高魚聞熱旱之憂則下當此雖禹 湯爲之謀必不能易矣鳥魚可謂愚矣禹湯 猶云因焉今翟曾無稱於孔子乎有游於子 墨子之門者謂子墨子曰先生以鬼爲神明 知能爲禍人哉有游於子墨子之門者身體 强良思慮徇通欲使隨而學子墨子曰姑學 乎吾將仕子勸於善言而學其年而責仕於 子墨子子曰不仕子子亦聞夫魯語乎魯有 昆弟五人者亦父死亦長子嗜酒而不葬亦 四弟曰子無我葬當爲子沽酒勸於善言而 葬已葬而責酒於其四弟四弟曰吾未予子 酒矣子葬子父我葬吾父豈獨吾父哉子不 葬則人將笑子故勸子葬也今子爲義我亦 爲義豈獨我義也哉子不學則人將笑子故 勸子於學有游於子墨子之門者子墨子曰 盍學乎對曰吾族人無學者子墨子曰不然 夫好美者豈曰吾族人莫之好故不好哉夫 欲富貴者故不欲哉好美欲富貴者不視人 猶强爲之福爲善者富之暴者禍之今吾事 先生久矣而福不至意者先生之言有不善 乎鬼神不明乎我何故不得福也子墨子曰 雖子不得福吾言何遽不善而鬼神何遽不 明子亦聞乎匿徒之刑之有刑乎對曰未得 之聞也子墨子曰今有人於此什子子能什 譽之而一自譽乎對曰不能有人於此百子 子能終身譽亦善而子無一乎對曰不能子
Interpretation

This passage records several dialogues between Mozi and his disciples, showcasing the core tenets of Mohist philosophy.

The text begins with an analogy using fish and birds responding to drought: when facing drought, fish instinctively swim to deeper waters while birds fly to higher ground—a natural response even sage-kings like Yu and Tang couldn't alter. Mozi employs this metaphor to modestly claim his wisdom still falls short of Confucius'.

Two instructional stories follow. In the first, a disciple wishes to study under Mozi to secure an official position. Mozi admonishes him with a parable about five brothers from Lu state: just as brothers urging burial rites for their father act from moral duty rather than personal gain, encouraging learning serves to propagate righteousness. The second story features a disciple refusing study because "none in my clan learns." Mozi counters this by arguing one wouldn't abandon pursuits of beauty or wealth simply because others don't partake—the same applies to virtuous conduct.

Finally, they debate the connection between virtue and blessings. When a disciple questions why years of following Mozi yielded no visible rewards, Mozi responds with the logic of fugitives evading punishment: just as one can't deny the law's existence merely by escaping capture, one shouldn't dismiss the spirits' omniscience for lacking immediate blessings. He emphasizes that virtuous acts must stem from sincere intent rather than utilitarian calculations.

These dialogues embody Mohist emphasis on practical action, pursuit of collective justice, and discernment of spiritual principles—firmly opposing excuses and profit-driven motives.

墨子曰匿一人者猶有罪今子所匿者若此 亦多將有厚罪者也何福之求子墨子有疾 跌鼻進而問曰先生以鬼神爲明能爲禍福 善者賞之爲不善者罰之今先生聖人也何 故有疾意者先生之言有不善乎鬼神不明 知乎子墨子曰雖使我有病何遽不明人之 所得於病者多方有得之寒暑有得之勞苦 百門而一門焉則盗何遽無從夫義天下之 大器也何以視人必强爲之二三子有復於 子墨子學射者子墨子曰不可夫知者必量 亦力所能至而從事焉國士戰且扶人猶不 可及也今子非國士也豈能成學又成射哉 二三子復於子墨子曰告子曰言義而行甚 惡請棄之子墨子曰不可稱我言以毁我行 愈於亡有人於此翟甚不仁尊天事鬼愛人 甚不仁猶愈於亡也今告子言談甚辯言仁 義而不吾毁告毁子猶愈亡也二三子復於 子墨子曰吿子勝爲仁子墨子曰未必然也 告子爲仁譬猶跛以爲長隱以爲廣不可久 也告子謂子墨子曰我治國爲政子墨子曰 政者口言之身必行之今子口言之而身不 行是子之身亂也子不能治子之身惡能治 國政子姑亡子之身亂之矣 墨子卷之
Interpretation

Mozi said, "Even concealing a single person is considered a crime. Now you've hidden so many people—this will invite severe punishment. How can you still seek blessings?" When Mozi fell ill, his disciple Diebi came and asked, "Master, you often say that ghosts and spirits perceive the finest details, bestowing misfortune or blessings, rewarding good deeds and punishing evil ones. Yet now you, a sage, have fallen ill. Does this mean your teachings are flawed, or that the ghosts and spirits lack discernment?"

Mozi replied, "Just because I am ill, how does that prove the ghosts and spirits lack perception? There are many causes for human illness—some arise from exposure to cold or heat, others from exhaustion. It’s like having a hundred doors and closing only one—thieves can still enter. 'Righteousness' is a fundamental principle for governing the world, but how can we demand that everyone forcibly uphold it?"

Some disciples informed Mozi that someone wished to learn archery from him. He said, "No. A wise person first assesses their own capacity before acting. Even a 'national scholar' (guoshi, an exceptional talent) would struggle to both fight in battle and tend to the wounded—how much more so for you, who are not national scholars? How can you simultaneously master scholarship and excel in archery?"

The disciples later reported, "Gaozi (a philosopher) speaks of benevolence and righteousness but behaves vilely. We should sever ties with him." Mozi responded, "No. Though his words and deeds don’t align, it’s still better that he promotes my teachings rather than not mentioning them at all. It’s like someone utterly lacking in benevolence who still reveres Heaven and spirits while caring for others—that’s still preferable to being wholly worthless. Gaozi is eloquent; though he fails to practice benevolence and righteousness, at least he doesn’t slander our doctrines."

The disciples pressed further: "Gaozi claims to excel in practicing benevolence and righteousness." Mozi retorted, "Hardly. His so-called benevolence and righteousness are like a lame man boasting of long legs or a hunchback claiming broad shoulders—it cannot last." When Gaozi told Mozi, "I wish to govern the state with benevolent policies," Mozi pointed out, "Governing requires matching words with deeds. You talk without acting and can’t even manage yourself—how could you govern a state? First resolve your own disorder."

(Note: Here, "righteousness" refers to the Mohist core tenet of "universal love"; "national scholar" denotes a virtuous and talented statesman; "Gaozi" was a philosopher famous for his debates with Mencius.)

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