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About this page. The original text of 《墨子》 Vol. 8 (Taiqing 太清部, 15 volumes) is shown in Classical Chinese as transmitted in the Kanripo (Kyoto University) edition. An English interpretation of the 12 passages on this page accompanies it: select a passage or press “Interpretation” to show it. All texts in English

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墨子卷之八沛七    明鬼上第二十九(闕)    明鬼中第三十(闕)    明鬼下第三十一 子墨子言曰逮至昔三代聖王既没天下失 義諸侯力正是以存夫爲人君臣上下者之 不惠忠也父子弟兄之不慈孝弟長貞良也 正長之不强於聽治賤人之不强於從事也 民之爲淫暴㓂盗賊以兵刃毒藥水火退無 罪人乎道路率徑奪人車馬衣裘以自利者 並作由此始是以天下亂此其故何以然也 則皆以疑惑鬼神之有與無之别不眀乎鬼 神之能賞賢而罰暴也今若使天下之人借 若信鬼神之能賞賢而罰暴也則夫天下豈 亂哉今執無鬼者曰鬼神者固無有旦暮以 爲教誨乎天下之疑天下之衆使天下之衆 皆疑惑乎鬼神有無之别是以天下亂是故 子墨子曰今天下之王公大人士君子實將 欲求興天下之利除天下之害故當鬼神之 有與無之别以爲將不可以明察此者也既 以鬼神有無之别以爲不可不察已然則吾 爲明察此其說將奈何而可子墨子曰是與 天下之所以察知有與無之道者必以衆之 耳目之實知有與亡爲儀者也請惑聞之見 之則必以爲無若是何不嘗入一鄕一里而 問之自古以及今生民以來者亦有嘗見鬼 神之物聞鬼神之聲則鬼神何謂無乎若莫 聞莫見則鬼神可謂有乎今執無鬼者言曰
Interpretation

In the chapter "Explaining Ghosts," Mozi states: Since the passing of the sage-kings of the Xia, Shang, and Zhou dynasties, the world has lost its moral compass, and feudal lords contend with military force. In this era, rulers and ministers no longer uphold benevolence and loyalty, fathers and sons lack kindness and filial piety, officials neglect their duties, and the common people fail to devote themselves to labor. People indulge in wanton violence—robbing, killing, wielding weapons and poison, ambushing innocent travelers on the road, and seizing others' carts, horses, and clothing for personal gain. These evils have proliferated, plunging the world into chaos.

Why has this happened? It is because people doubt the existence of ghosts and spirits and fail to understand that they reward the virtuous and punish the wicked. If everyone in the world truly believed that ghosts and spirits dispense justice, how could chaos persist? Those who insist on the "no-ghost" theory claim that spirits do not exist and spread this view widely, sowing confusion among the masses. This very doubt is the root of the world's disorder.

Mozi continues: If the rulers and nobles of today sincerely wish to benefit the world and eliminate its harms, they must clarify the question of whether ghosts and spirits exist. Since this issue cannot be left unexamined, how should we verify it? Mozi argues that to determine whether something exists, we must rely on the actual experiences of the people. If someone claims that ghosts do not exist because they have never seen them, why not investigate among the villagers? Since ancient times, there have indeed been those who have witnessed the forms of spirits or heard their voices—how, then, can we say they do not exist? Conversely, if no one has seen or heard them, how can we assert their existence?

(Here, Mozi's advocacy of "Explaining Ghosts" emphasizes the supervisory role of spirits in human morality, proposing that belief in ghosts and spirits serves as a moral constraint. This reflects a key aspect of Mohist thought—"the Will of Heaven and the Existence of Ghosts"—forming a cohesive system alongside doctrines such as "Universal Love" and "Condemnation of Offensive War.")

夫天下之爲聞見鬼神之物者不可勝計也 亦孰爲聞見神鬼有無之物哉子墨子曰若 以衆之所同見與衆之所同聞則若昔者杜 伯是也周宣王殺其臣杜伯而不辜杜伯曰 吾君殺我而不辜若以死者爲無知則止矣 若死而有知不出三年必使吾君知之其三 年周宣王合諸侯而用於圃田車數百乘從 數千人滿野日中杜伯乘白馬素車朱衣冠 執朱弓挾朱矢追周宣王射入車上中心折 脊殪車中伏㢭而死當是之時周人從者莫 不見遠者莫不聞著在周之春秋爲君者以 教其臣爲父者以□其子曰戒之慎之凡殺 不辜者其得不祥鬼神之謀若此之憯遫以 若書之說觀之則鬼神之有豈可疑哉非惟 若書之說爲然昔者鄭穆公當晝日中處乎 廟有神入門而左鳥身素服三絶面狀正方 鄭穆公見之乃𢙢懼犇帝享女眀德使子錫 女壽十年有九使若國家蕃昌子孫茂毋失 鄭穆公再拜稽首曰敢問神曰予爲句芒若 以鄭穆公之所身見爲儀則鬼神之有豈可 疑哉非惟若書之說爲然也昔者燕簡公殺 其臣莊子儀而不辜莊子儀曰吾君王殺我 而不辜死人毋知亦已死人有知不出三年 必使吾君知之期年燕將馳祖燕之有祖當 齊之社稷宋之有桒林楚之有雲夢也此男 女之所屬而觀也日中燕簡公方將馳於祖
Interpretation

Countless people in the world claim to have seen ghosts and spirits, but who can truly prove their existence? Mozi said: If we need examples witnessed and heard by the masses, the story of Du Bo from ancient times serves as the clearest proof.

King Xuan of Zhou unjustly executed his minister Du Bo. Before his execution, Du Bo declared: "My lord kills me though I am innocent. If the dead have no consciousness, so be it. But if they do, within three years, my lord shall know the consequences." True to his word, three years later, while King Xuan was hunting in Putian with hundreds of chariots and thousands of attendants, at high noon, Du Bo's vengeful spirit appeared. Riding a white chariot drawn by white horses, clad in red robes and a crimson crown, he pursued the king with a red bow and arrows. One arrow pierced the king's heart, felling him dead upon his chariot. All the Zhou people present witnessed this, and those afar heard of it—recorded in Zhou's historical annals. Since then, rulers have used this tale to warn ministers, and fathers to admonish sons: those who slay the innocent will face retribution. Such is the swift justice of ghosts and spirits. Given these records, how can there be any doubt about their existence?

This is not merely historical documentation. Duke Mu of Zheng experienced it firsthand. One midday, while in the ancestral temple, a divine being suddenly appeared—a bird's body with a human face, dressed in white—entering through the left gate. Terrified, the duke nearly fled, but the spirit reassured him: "Fear not. The Heavenly Emperor admires your virtue and sends me to grant you nineteen more years of life, ensuring your state's prosperity and descendants' flourishing." Kneeling in reverence, Duke Mu inquired further, and the spirit identified itself as Goumang, the Wood Deity (the spring god of the east). Such firsthand encounters—are they not proof enough of spirits' existence?

Another case: Duke Jian of Yan wrongfully executed his minister Zhuang Ziyi, who likewise swore vengeance before death. A year later, during Yan's grand "Zu Sacrifice" (a major ritual akin to Qi's earth-god worship or Song's mulberry grove ceremony), at midday as Duke Jian stood at the altar, Zhuang Ziyi's vengeful spirit came to exact retribution...

塗莊子儀荷朱杖而擊之殪之車上當是時 燕人從者莫不見遠者莫不聞著在燕之春 秋諸侯傳而言之曰凡殺不辜者其得不祥 鬼神之誅若此其憯遫也以若書之說觀之 則鬼神之有豈可疑哉非惟若書之說爲然 也昔者宋文君鮑之時有臣曰𥙐觀辜固嘗 從事於厲株子杖揖出與言曰觀辜是何陸 璧之不滿度量酒醴粢盛之不淨潔也犧牲 之不全肥春秋冬夏選失時豈女爲之與意 鮑爲之與觀辜曰鮑幼弱在荷繦之中鮑何 與識焉官臣觀辜特爲之株子舉揖而槀之 殪之壇上當是宋人從者莫不見遠者莫不 聞著在宋之春秋諸侯傳而語之曰諸不敬 慎祭祀者鬼神之誅至若此其憯遫以若書 之說觀之鬼神之有豈可疑哉非惟若書之 說爲然也昔者齊莊君之有所謂王里國中 里徼者此二子者訟三年而獄不斷齊君由 謙殺之恐不辜猶謙釋之𢙢失有罪乃使之 人共一羊盟齊之神社二子許諾於是泏洫 𢵣羊而漉其血讀王里國之辭既已終矣讀 中里徼之辭未半也羊起而觸之折其脚祧 神之而槀之殪之盟所當是時齊人從者莫 不見遠者莫不聞著在齊之春秋諸侯傳而 語之曰請品先不以其請者鬼神之誅至若 此其憯遫也以若書之說觀之鬼神之有豈 可疑哉是故子墨子言曰雖有深谿博林幽
Interpretation

This passage records three historical incidents of divine retribution against evildoers, demonstrating the existence of spirits and their swift punishment.

The first account occurred in the state of Yan. Tu Zhuangziyi killed a man with a redwood staff, witnessed by all Yan citizens present and heard of by distant observers. Recorded in The Spring and Autumn Annals of Yan, feudal lords across states circulated the lesson: "Those who slay the innocent inevitably invite calamity—such is the immediacy of divine retribution."

The second episode took place during the reign of Duke Wen Bao of Song. An official named Guan Gu presided over sacrifices using improperly sized jade tablets, unclean offerings, underfed sacrificial animals, and irregular seasonal rites. The deity manifested as Li Zhuzi confronted Guan Gu, who blamed the young ruler's ignorance. Li Zhuzi then struck Guan Gu dead upon the altar with a staff, an event likewise documented in The Spring and Autumn Annals of Song.

The third incident unfolded in Qi. After Wang Liguo and Zhong Lijiao's three-year legal dispute remained unresolved, Duke Zhuang of Qi ordered them to swear oaths before the ancestral shrine using sheep's blood. As Zhong Lijiao recited his oath, the sheep suddenly charged, and the manifest deity struck him dead instantly—an event preserved in The Spring and Autumn Annals of Qi.

Through these documented cases, Mozi concludes: Classical records prove spirits undeniably exist. Those who disrespect deities, neglect proper sacrifices, or swear false oaths invariably incur immediate and severe divine punishment.

澗毋人之所施行不可以不董見有鬼神視 之今執無鬼者曰夫衆人耳目之請豈足以 斷疑哉奈何其欲爲高君子於天下而有復 信衆之耳目之請哉子曰若以衆之耳目之 請以爲不足信也不以斷疑不識若昔者三 代聖王堯舜禹湯文武者足以爲法乎故於 此乎自中人以上皆曰若昔者三代聖王足 以爲法矣若苟昔者三代聖王足以爲法然 則姑嘗上觀聖王之事昔者武王之攻殷誅 紂也使諸侯分其祭曰使親者受内祀䟽者 受外祀故武王必以鬼神爲有是故攻殷誅 紂使諸侯分其祭若鬼神無有則武王何祭 分哉非爲武王之事爲然也故聖王其賞也 必於祖其僇也必於社賞於祖者何也告分 之均也僇於社者何也告聽之中也非惟若 書之說爲然也且惟昔者虞夏商周三代之 聖王其始建國營都日必擇國之正壇置以 爲宗廟必擇木之脩茂者立以爲菆位必擇 國之父兄慈孝貞良者以爲祝宗必擇六畜 之勝腯肥倅毛以爲犧牲珪璧璜璜稱財爲 度必擇五穀之芳黄以爲酒醴粢盛故酒醴 粢盛與歲上下也故古聖王治天下也故必 先鬼神而後人者此也故曰官府選効必先 祭器祭服畢藏於府祝宗有司畢立於朝犧 牲不與昔聚群故古者聖王之爲政若此古 者聖王必以鬼神爲其務鬼神厚矣又恐後
Interpretation

Mozi here discusses the importance of belief in spirits and deities. He refutes those who deny the existence of spirits by arguing: If even the eyewitness accounts of ordinary people cannot determine the truth of matters, then by what authority do you self-proclaimed gentlemen of the realm dismiss the collective testimony of the multitudes?

Mozi cites examples from ancient sage-kings to prove the existence of spirits. He points out that revered rulers like Yao, Shun, Yu, Tang of Shang, King Wen and King Wu of Zhou all believed in spirits. For instance, when King Wu of Zhou launched his campaign against King Zhou of Shang, he specifically assigned sacrificial duties among the feudal lords—having those closely related perform inner sacrifices while distant relatives conducted outer sacrifices. If spirits didn't exist, why would King Wu make such arrangements?

The ancient sage-kings invariably conducted rewards in ancestral temples and administered punishments at the altars of soil gods. Bestowing rewards in ancestral temples served to report the fairness of distribution to forebears, while executing punishments at soil altars declared the justice of judgments to the deities. This wasn't merely recorded in historical texts—the sage-kings of the Yu, Xia, Shang and Zhou dynasties all maintained this practice when establishing their capitals.

They invariably selected the central location of their capital to build ancestral temples, chose flourishing trees for sacrificial sites, appointed virtuous elders as ceremonial masters (Zhu Zong), selected plump livestock for offerings, prepared appropriate jade vessels according to their means, and used premium grains to brew ritual wines. The richness of offerings would be adjusted according to harvest conditions.

Thus when the ancient sage-kings governed the world, they prioritized service to spirits before human affairs. Government offices would first prepare sacrificial vessels and ceremonial robes, carefully storing them in treasuries; ritual masters and officials were all assigned positions at court; sacrificial animals were kept separately from ordinary livestock. All this demonstrates how the ancient sage-kings truly regarded service to spirits as paramount, showing utmost reverence while fearing any negligence.

世子孫不能知也故書之竹帛傳遺後世子 孫咸恐其腐蠹絶滅後世子孫不得而記故 琢之盤盂鏤之金石以重之有恐後世子孫 不能敬莙以取羊故先王之書聖人一尺之 帛一篇之書語數鬼神之有也重有重之此 其故何則聖王務之今執無鬼者曰鬼神者 固無有則此反聖王之務反聖王之務則非 所以爲君子之道也今執無鬼者之言曰先 王之書慎無一尺之帛一篇之書語數鬼神 之有重有重亦何書之亦何書有之哉子墨 子曰周書大雅有之大雅曰文王在上於昭 于天周雖舊邦其命維新有周不顯帝命不 時文王陟降在帝左右穆穆文王令問不已 若鬼神無有則文王既死彼豈能在帝之左 右哉此吾所以知周書之鬼也且周書獨鬼 而商書不鬼則未足以爲法也然則姑嘗止 觀乎商書曰嗚呼古者有夏方未有禍之時 百獸貞蟲允及飛鳥莫不比方矧住人面胡 敢異心山川鬼神亦莫敢不寧若能共允住 天下之合下土之葆察山川鬼神之所以莫 敢不寧者以佐謀禹也此吾所以知商周之 鬼也且禹書獨鬼而夏書不鬼則未足以爲 法也然則姑嘗止觀乎夏書禹誓曰大戰于 甘王乃命左右六人下聽誓于中軍曰有扈 氏威侮五行怠棄三正天用勦絶其命有曰 日中今予與有扈氏争一日之命且爾卿大
Interpretation

In this scripture passage, Mozi presents evidence for the existence of spirits and deities. He argues that the classical texts of ancient sage-kings frequently mention spirits and deities, and to deny their existence would contradict the teachings of these sage-kings and violate the Dao (Way) of noble individuals.

Those who deny the existence of spirits and deities ask: Where do the classical texts of ancient kings record such things? Mozi refutes this by pointing to the "Greater Odes" section of the Zhou Documents, which clearly states that King Wen of Zhou continued to serve by the side of the Supreme Deity (Shangdi) after his death. If spirits didn't exist, how could King Wen remain with the Supreme Deity after death? This, Mozi argues, proves that Zhou dynasty texts acknowledge spirits and deities.

Mozi then cites the Shang Documents, which record that during the flourishing period of the Xia dynasty, even the mountain and river spirits dared not remain unsettled, all coming to assist Yu the Great in flood control. This demonstrates that Shang dynasty texts also recognized spirits. To accept the Zhou records of spirits while denying those of the Shang would be inconsistent.

Finally, Mozi references the "Yu's Declaration" from the Xia Documents, which describes how before the great battle at Gan between Xia Qi and the Youhu clan, Xia Qi commanded six ministers to receive orders at the central army, accusing the Youhu clan of disrespecting the Five Phases (Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, Water) and abandoning the Three Correct Principles (of Heaven, Earth, and Humanity), thus incurring Heaven's decree to terminate their kingdom. This proves that Xia dynasty texts equally acknowledged the existence of spirits.

Through these historical records, Mozi constructs a cumulative argument: tracing from Zhou back to Shang and then to Xia, he shows that successive generations of sage-kings all recognized the existence of spirits and deities. He maintains these records aren't coincidental but "reiterated repeatedly," demonstrating their actual existence. To deny spirits is to reject the teachings of ancient kings and violate the sage's Dao of governance.

夫庶人予非爾田野葆士之欲也予共行天 之罰也左不共于左右不共于右若不共命 御非藏馬之政若不共命是以賞於祖而僇 於社賞於祖者何也言分命之均也僇於社 者何也言聽獄之事也故古聖王必以鬼神 爲賞賢而罰暴是故賞必於祖而僇必於社 此吾所以知夏書之鬼也故尚書夏書其次 商周之書語數鬼神之有也重有重之此其 故何也則聖王務之以若書之說觀之則鬼 神之有豈可疑哉於古曰吉日丁卯周代祝 社方歲于社考以延年壽若無鬼神彼豈有 所延年壽哉是故子墨子曰嘗若鬼神之能 賞賢如罰暴也蓋本施之國家施之萬民實 所以治國家利萬民之道也若以爲不然是 以吏治官府之不潔廉男女之爲無别者鬼 神見之民之爲淫暴㓂亂盗賊以兵刃毒藥 水火退無罪人乎道路奪人車馬衣裘以自 利者有鬼神現之是以吏治官府不敢不潔 廉見善不敢不賞見暴不敢不罪民之爲淫 暴㓂亂盗賊以兵刃毒藥水火退無罪人乎 道路奪車馬衣裘以自利者由此止是以莫 放幽間擬乎鬼神之明顯明有一人畏上誅 罰是以天下治故鬼神之明不可爲幽間廣 澤山林深谷鬼神之明必知之鬼神之罰不 可富貴衆强勇力强武堅甲利兵鬼神之罰 必勝之若以爲不然昔者夏王桀貴爲天子
Interpretation

This passage from Mozi emphasizes the importance of belief in spirits and deities for social governance. He argues that ordinary people do not covet land or wealth but collectively carry out Heaven's punishments. If officials fail in their duties—just as one would be punished for neglecting horses under their care—they too must face consequences. The ancient sage-kings rewarded virtue and punished vice through ancestral worship (zu) and earth god sacrifices (she): distributing rewards in ancestral temples symbolized equitable distribution, while executing punishments at the earth altar represented impartial judgment.

Mozi cites records from the Shangshu (Classic of Documents) about the Xia, Shang, and Zhou dynasties as proof of spirits' existence. For instance, the Zhou dynasty performed longevity rituals for the earth god on the auspicious day of Dingmao—a meaningless act if spirits didn't exist. He posits that spirits reward the worthy and punish the tyrannical, a system highly effective for statecraft and public welfare. Without spiritual oversight, officials would corrupt, gender relations would disorder, and banditry would prevail.

Mozi illustrates how the omnipresence of spirits—whether in remote mountains or bustling cities, observing all deeds, and their power to punish regardless of wealth or status—ensures officials dare not embezzle, rewarding good and punishing evil without exception. He concludes with the example of the tyrant Jie of Xia: though exalted as the Son of Heaven, his cruelty invoked Heaven's punishment, proving that no wealth or might can withstand divine retribution.

富有天下上詬天侮鬼下殃傲天下之萬民 祥上帝伐元山帝行故於此乎天乃使湯至 明罰焉湯以車九兩鳥陣鴈行湯乘大賛犯 遂下衆人之𧎸遂王乎禽推哆大戲故昔夏 王桀貴爲天子富有天下有勇之推哆大戲 主别兇虎指畫殺人人民之衆兆億侯盈厥 澤陵然不能以此圉鬼神之誅此吾所謂鬼 神之罰不可爲富貴衆强勇力强武堅甲利 兵者此也且不惟此爲然昔者殷王紂貴爲 天子富有天下上詬天侮鬼下殃傲天下之 萬民播棄黎老賊誅孩子椘毒無罪刳剔孕 婦庶舊鰥寡號咷無告也故於此乎天乃使 武王至明罰焉武王以擇車百兩虎賁之卒 四百人先庶國節窺戎與殷人戰乎牧之野 王乎禽費中惡來衆畔百走武王逐奔入宫 萬年梓株折紂而繫之赤環載之白旗以爲 天下諸侯僇故昔者殷王紂貴爲天子富有 天下有勇力之人費中惡來崇侯虎指寡殺 人人民之衆兆億侯盈厥澤陵然不能以此 圉鬼神之誅此吾所謂鬼神之罰不可爲富 貴衆强力勇强武堅甲利兵者此也且禽艾 之道之曰得璣無小滅宗無大則此言鬼神 之所賞無小必賞之鬼神以所罰無大必罰 之今執無鬼者曰意不忠親之利而害爲孝 子乎子墨子曰古之今之爲鬼非他也有天 鬼亦有山水鬼神者亦有人死而爲鬼者今
Interpretation

This scripture uses the examples of the tyrants King Jie of Xia and King Zhou of Shang to illustrate that even those who hold the highest position as the Son of Heaven and possess all the wealth under heaven will face divine punishment if they commit grave evils.

Though King Jie of Xia held the exalted title of Son of Heaven and commanded the riches of the realm, along with fierce warriors like Tui Duo and Da Xi, his cruelty knew no bounds. He slaughtered the common people indiscriminately, filling marshes and hills with corpses. Yet no amount of power could shield him from the retribution of the spirits. Similarly, King Zhou of Shang, though also the Son of Heaven, insulted the deities of heaven and earth, oppressed the people, abandoned the elderly, murdered children, and even cut open the bellies of pregnant women, leaving the widowed, orphaned, and destitute with no recourse for their suffering. Thus, Heaven sent King Wu to execute justice, crushing the Shang army at the Battle of Muye and ultimately capturing and executing King Zhou.

Through these historical lessons, Mozi demonstrates that divine punishment is not withheld from anyone, no matter how noble their status or formidable their military might. As the ancient sage Qin Ai wisely said: "Even the smallest good deed will be rewarded, and even the greatest evil will surely be punished." Some who disbelieve in spirits argue that such beliefs hinder filial piety. But Mozi points out that faith in spirits has existed since antiquity—encompassing celestial deities, the gods of mountains and rivers, and the ghosts of the deceased. The existence of spirits encourages people toward virtue and is by no means a harmful doctrine.

有子先其父死弟先其兄死者矣意雖使然 然而天下之陳物曰先生者先死若是則先 死者非父則毋非兄而姒也今潔爲酒醴粢 盛以敬慎祭祀若使鬼神請有是得其父母 姒兄而飲食之也豈非厚利哉若使鬼神請 亡是乃費其所爲酒醴粢盛之財耳自夫費 之特注之汙壑而棄之也内者宗族外者鄉 里皆得如具飲食之雖使鬼神請亡此猶可 以合驩聚衆取親於鄕里今執無鬼者言曰 鬼神者固請無有是以不共其酒醴粢盛犧 牲之財吾非乃今愛其酒醴粢盛犧牲之財 乎其所得者臣將何哉此上逆聖王之書内 逆民人孝子之行而爲上士於天下此非所 以爲上士道是故子墨子曰今吾爲禁祀也 非直注之汙壑而棄之也上以交鬼之福下 以合驩聚衆取親乎鄉里若神有則是得吾 父母弟兄而食之也則此豈非天下利事也 哉是故子墨子曰今天下之王公大人士君 子中實將欲求興天下之利除天下之害當 若鬼神之有也將不可不尊明也聖王之道 也    非樂上第三十二 子墨子言曰仁之事者必務求興天下之利 除天下之害將以爲法乎天下利人乎即爲 不利人乎即止且夫仁者之爲天下度也非 爲其目之所美耳之所樂口之所甘身體之 所安以此虧奪民衣食之財仁者弗爲也是
Interpretation

Sometimes a son may pass away before his father, or a younger brother may depart before his elder sibling. Though people consider this contrary to natural order, such phenomena do exist in the world. If we follow the saying "those born first die first," then it would be parents or elder brothers and sisters-in-law who should depart first.

When people prepare pure offerings of wine and food with reverent care to honor their ancestors, if spirits and deities truly exist, these offerings allow departed parents and elder siblings to partake—is this not profoundly meaningful? Even if no spirits exist, at worst it means some resources are spent on offerings—yet these same resources would otherwise be wasted, poured into the gutter without purpose.

In truth, these offerings can be shared among clan members, friends, and neighbors. Even without spirits, such rituals strengthen bonds, foster unity, and bring harmony to the community. Yet those who insist on denying the existence of spirits argue: "Since ghosts and deities do not exist, why waste wine, food, and sacrificial animals?" I am not begrudging these offerings, but I ask: What is gained by this stance? It contradicts the teachings of the sages, wounds the people's filial devotion to ancestors, and yet still claims moral superiority—what kind of noble Dao is this?

Thus, Mozi said: "I advocate maintaining sacrifices not to discard offerings into gutters, but for higher and lower purposes: Above, to seek blessings from the spirits; below, to unite kin and harmonize the community. If spirits truly exist, parents and siblings may partake; if not, it still benefits society."

Therefore, Mozi concluded: If the lords, nobles, and noble-minded scholars of today truly wish to bring benefit to the world and eliminate its harms, they should acknowledge the possibility of spirits and follow the teachings of the sage-kings. This is no trivial matter.

In the chapter Against Music, Mozi further elaborates: The benevolent act only to promote the world's benefit and remove its harms. This principle must be the standard—what benefits the people is done; what does not is abandoned. When true humanitarians consider the world's welfare, they do not chase mere sensory pleasures—what delights the eye, ear, mouth, or body. If such pleasures come at the cost of the people's food and clothing, the benevolent will never indulge in them.

故子墨子之所以非樂者非以大鍾鳴鼓琴 瑟竽笙之聲以爲不樂也非以刻鏤華文章 之色以爲不美也非以犓豢煎炙之味以爲 不甘也非以高臺厚榭邃野之居以爲不安 也雖身知其安也口知其甘也目知其美也 耳知其樂也然上考之不中聖王之事下度 之不中萬民之利是故子墨子曰爲樂非也 今王公大人雖無造爲樂器以爲事乎國家 非直掊潦水折壤坦而爲之也將必厚措歛 乎萬民以爲大鍾鳴鼓琴瑟竽笙之聲譬之 若聖王之爲舟車也即我弗敢非也古者聖 王亦嘗厚措歛乎萬民以爲舟車既已成矣 曰吾將惡許用之曰舟用之水車用之陸君 子息其足焉小人休其肩背焉故萬民出財 齎而予之不敢以爲慼恨者何也以其反中 民之利也然則樂器反中民之利亦若此即 我弗敢非也然則當用樂器民有三患飢者 不得食寒者不得衣勞者不得息三者民之 巨患也然即當爲之撞巨鍾擊鳴鼓彈琴瑟 吹竽笙而揚干戚民衣食之財將安可得乎 即我以爲未必然也意舍此今有大國即攻 小國有大家即伐小家强劫弱衆暴寡詐欺 愚貴傲賤㓂亂盜賊並興不可禁止也然即 當爲之撞巨鍾擊鳴鼓彈琴瑟吹竽笙而揚 干戚天下之亂也將安可得而治與即我未 必然也是故子墨子曰姑嘗厚措歛乎萬民
Interpretation

Mozi's opposition to music was not because the sounds of bells, drums, zithers, pipes, and reed instruments were unpleasant to the ear, nor because intricately carved decorations were unattractive to the eye. It wasn't that the flavors of beef, mutton, pork, and dog meat were unpalatable, nor that towering pavilions and secluded mansions provided uncomfortable living quarters. Personally, he certainly recognized these pleasures as enjoyable—the mouth knows delicacies are sweet, the eyes perceive colors as beautiful, and the ears appreciate music as harmonious.

But Mozi considered two perspectives: Looking upward, such indulgences didn't align with the governing principles of ancient sage-kings; looking downward, these luxuries brought no practical benefits to common people. Thus he concluded: The pursuit of pleasure was fundamentally wrong.

Contemporary nobles and officials, though not yet at the stage of manufacturing musical instruments specifically for state governance, inevitably imposed heavy taxes and levies upon the populace to acquire those massive bells, resonant drums, zithers, pipes, and reed instruments. This contrasted sharply with how ancient sage-kings created carts and boats—which Mozi didn't oppose. Though sage-kings also collected resources from people to build these vehicles, they clearly stated their purpose afterwards: boats served waterways while carts served land routes, allowing nobles to rest their feet and commoners to relieve their burden-bearing toil. People contributed funds without resentment precisely because these vehicles genuinely benefited them.

Had musical instruments provided similar public utility as carts and boats, Mozi naturally wouldn't have objected. But reality showed three great sufferings among the populace: the hungry lacked food, the cold lacked clothing, and the exhausted lacked rest. Under such circumstances, would banging great bells, beating loud drums, playing zithers and pipes, or waving shields and axes in dance solve people's basic needs? Clearly not.

Consider also how major states attacked minor ones, great clans oppressed smaller families, the strong robbed the weak, the numerous bullied the few, the cunning deceived the honest, nobles looked down on commoners, and banditry flourished uncontrollably. Faced with such social chaos, could tolling bells and playing zithers possibly bring peace to the world? Obviously not. Therefore Mozi declared: Rather than extorting people to pursue fleeting pleasures, we must first address these fundamental problems.

以爲大鍾鳴鼓琴瑟竽笙之聲以求興天下 之利除天下之害而無補也是故子墨子曰 爲樂非也今王公大人惟毋處高臺厚榭之 上而視之鍾猶是延鼎也弗撞擊將何樂得 焉哉其說將必撞擊之惟勿撞擊將必不使 老與遲者老與遲者耳目不聰眀股肱不畢 强聲不和調明不轉朴將必使當年因其耳 目之聰明股肱之畢强聲之和調眉之轉朴 使丈夫爲之廢大夫耕稼樹藝之時使婦人 爲之廢婦人紡績織絍之事今王公大人惟 毋爲樂虧奪民衣食之時以拊樂如此多也 是故子墨子曰爲樂非也今大鍾鳴鼓琴瑟 竽笙之聲既已具矣大人鏽然奏而獨聽之 將何樂得焉哉其說將必與賤人不與君子 聽之廢君子聽治與賤人聽之廢賤人之從 事今王公大人惟毋爲樂虧奪民之衣食之 財以拊樂如此多也是故子墨子曰爲樂非 也昔者齊康公興樂萬萬人不可衣短褐不 可食糠糟曰食飲不美面目顔色不足視也 衣服不美身體從容醜羸不足觀也是以食 必粱肉衣必文繡此掌不從事乎衣食之財 而掌食乎人者也是故子墨子曰今王公大 人惟無爲虧奪民衣食之財以拊樂如此多 也是故子墨子曰爲樂非也今人固與禽獸 麋鹿蜚鳥貞蟲異者也今之禽獸麋鹿蜚鳥 貞蟲因其羽毛以爲衣裘因其蹄蚤以爲絝
Interpretation

Mozi held that the sounds of great bells, drums, zithers, panpipes and other musical instruments could not truly benefit the world or eliminate its calamities. Therefore, Mozi declared: the pursuit of music is wrong.

When rulers and nobles dwell in their lofty towers and pavilions, gazing upon those bells that resemble upturned tripods - if they are not struck, how can there be music? But to strike the bells requires employing young men, for the elderly and dull-witted have poor hearing and vision, unresponsive limbs, and voices that cannot harmonize. This inevitably delays strong men from plowing the fields and women from spinning and weaving. Thus do the rulers and nobles, in their pursuit of pleasure, massively encroach upon the people's time for producing clothing and food.

Mozi further points out: when all manner of musical instruments are prepared, what enjoyment can nobles derive from listening alone? They inevitably summon commoners to listen together. The result is officials delayed in governance and commoners delayed in production. In their musical indulgence, rulers and nobles plunder the people's clothing, food and resources.

Mozi cites the example of Duke Kang of Qi: addicted to music, he maintained ten thousand musicians. These men created no goods yet consumed fine rice and meat, dressed in embroidered silks. They produced no clothing or food, only consuming others' labor. Thus Mozi repeatedly emphasizes: for rulers and nobles to rob the people's clothing and food for pleasure is profoundly mistaken.

Finally Mozi states: humans differ from beasts like deer, birds and insects. Beasts use feathers as clothing and hooves as footwear. But humans must labor to obtain clothing and food. If they indulge in music and neglect production, they become inferior even to beasts.

(Note: This passage illustrates Mozi's doctrine of "condemning music" (非乐), arguing musical indulgence hinders social production and burdens the people. "Deer" refers to elk-like creatures, "insects" to small creatures, and "birds" to flying creatures.)

屨因其水草以爲飲食故唯使䧺不耕稼樹 藝雌亦不紡績織絍衣食之財固已具矣今 人與此異者也賴其力者主不賴其力者不 主君子不强聽治即刑政亂賤人不强從事 即財用不足今天下之士君子以吾言不然 然即姑嘗數天下分事而觀樂之害王公大 人蚤朝晏退聽獄治政此其分事也士君子 竭股肱之力亶其思慮之智内治官府外收 歛關巿山林澤梁之利以實倉廪府庫此其 分事也農夫蚤出暮入耕稼樹藝多聚升粟 此其分事也婦人夙興夜寐紡綪織絍多治 麻絲葛緒細布縿此其分事也今惟毋在乎 王公大人說樂而聽之即必不能蚤朝晏退 聽獄治政是故國家亂而社稷危矣今惟毋 在乎士君子就樂而聽之即必不能竭股肱 之力亶其思慮之智内治官府外收歛關巿 山林澤梁之利以實倉廪府庫是故倉廪府 庫不實今惟毋在乎農夫說樂而聽之即必 不能蚤出暮入耕稼樹藝多聚升粟不足今 惟毋在乎婦人説樂而聽之即不必夙興夜 寐紡績織絍多治麻絲葛緒細布縿是故布 縿不興曰孰爲大人之聽治而廢國家之從 事曰樂也是故子墨子曰爲樂非也何以知 其然也曰先王之書湯之官刑有之曰其桓 舞于宫是謂巫風其刑君子出絲二衛小 人否似二伯黄徑乃言曰嗚呼舞佯佯黄言
Interpretation

This passage comes from the "Condemnation of Music" chapter in Mozi, criticizing how excessive pursuit of musical pleasures can hinder proper governance. Mozi employs a comparative approach: in ancient times, people lived off nature (drinking from streams and eating wild plants, where male birds didn't plow and female birds didn't weave), while in modern society, each social class has its own duties—rulers and ministers must rise early and retire late to handle state affairs, scholars must diligently manage government offices and taxes, farmers must toil in the fields, and women must weave day and night. If they all indulge in musical pleasures, their essential duties will be neglected: if rulers neglect governance, the state falls into chaos; if scholars fail to collect taxes, granaries empty; if farmers don't grow grain, food runs short; if women don't weave cloth, clothing becomes scarce.

Mozi particularly cites records from the Official Penalties of Shang Tang: indulging in song and dance at court was deemed "shamanistic decadence" (a licentious practice akin to sorcery) and punishable—nobles were fined two bundles of silk, commoners two bolts of cloth. He laments that these grand performances and ornate rhetoric (huangjing), though superficially vibrant and lively, ultimately lead to "cloth and silk not flourishing" (a decline in textile production). The root cause lies in those in power neglecting governance for the sake of music. Thus, Mozi concludes: excessive pursuit of music is improper.

孔章上帝弗常九有以亡上帝不順降之曰 𦍙其家必懷喪察九有之所以亡者徒從飾 樂也於武觀曰啓乃淫溢康樂野于飲食將 將銘莧磬以力湛濁于酒渝食于野萬舞翼 翼章聞于大天用弗式故上者天鬼弗戒下 者萬民弗利是故子墨子曰今天下士君子 請將欲求興天下之利除天下之害當在樂 之爲物將不可不禁而止也 墨子卷
Interpretation

This passage comes from the "Condemnation of Music" chapter in Mozi, primarily criticizing how excessive indulgence in pleasure leads to the decline of states. Mozi argues that activities like music and entertainment should be restricted.

The text cites historical lessons, stating that the ancient emperors (Shangdi, the Supreme Deity) did not protect rulers who indulged in pleasure, causing them to lose their kingdoms. Examining the reasons for the collapse of nine dynasties, all were due to the pursuit of sensual pleasures. For example, the Wuguan records that Xia Qi (a ruler of the Xia dynasty) abandoned himself to indulgence, feasting and reveling in the wild every day with the clamor of bells and chime stones, drowning in wine and lust, and even holding grand Wan dance performances in the open. When Heaven became aware of these actions, it withdrew its protection. The consequence was that he received neither divine favor from above nor the support of the people below.

Thus, Mozi concludes: If the scholars and gentlemen of today truly wish to benefit the people and eliminate harm, they must recognize the dangers of activities like music and entertainment and should prohibit them. Mozi does not oppose music itself but rather the rulers' excessive indulgence in pleasure, which exhausts the people's resources and drains state finances. He believed such extravagant pursuits would deplete the people's strength, disrupt productivity, and ultimately lead to the downfall of the state.

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