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《南華真經循本》Vol. 21

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南華眞經循本卷之二十一因一   廬陵竹峯羅勉道述   門人彭祥點校  外篇    知北遊 知北遊於玄水之上登隱弅(符云/反)之丘而適 遭無爲謂焉知謂無爲謂曰予欲有問乎若 何思何慮則知道何處何服則安道何從何 道則得道三問而無爲謂不答也非不答不 知答也知不得問反於白水之南登狐闋之 上而睹狂屈焉知以之言也問乎狂屈狂屈 曰唉(音/哀)予知之將語若中欲言而忘其所欲 言知不得問反於帝宫見黄帝而問焉黄帝 曰無思無慮始知道無處無服始安道無從 無道始得道知問黄帝曰我與若知之(若指/黄帝) 彼(指無/爲謂)與彼(指狂/屈)不知也其孰是邪黄帝曰 彼無爲謂眞是也狂屈似之我與汝終不近 也夫知者不言言者不知故聖人行不言之 教道不可致德不可至仁可爲也義可虧也 禮相僞也故曰失道而後德失德而後仁失 仁而後義失義而後禮禮者道之華而亂之 首也故曰爲道者日損損之又損以至於無 爲無爲而無不爲也今已(音/矣)爲物也欲復歸 根不亦難乎其易也其唯大人乎生者死之 徒死者生之始孰知其紀人之生氣之聚也 聚則爲生散則爲死若死生爲徒吾又何患 故萬物一也是其所美者爲神奇其所惡者
Interpretation

This chapter of "Zhi Bei You" recounts the story of Zhi (representing the seeker of knowledge) inquiring about the Dao from three different figures. First, Zhi arrives at Hidden Mound by the Mystic River and meets Wuweiwei (symbolizing natural non-action). He poses three questions: How should one think to comprehend the Dao? How should one act to abide in the Dao? What path should one take to attain the Dao? Wuweiwei offers no response—not out of refusal, but because he genuinely doesn't know how to answer.

Next, Zhi travels to Fox Gate Mountain south of the White River and encounters Kuangqu (symbolizing spontaneous nature). Kuangqu says, "I know the answers," but the moment he tries to speak, he forgets what he was going to say. Finally, Zhi returns to the celestial palace to consult the Yellow Emperor (symbolizing human artifice and education), who provides clear answers: True understanding comes from not thinking deliberately, abiding in the Dao requires releasing attachment to form, and the path to the Dao lies in not forcing one's way.

The Yellow Emperor reflects: Wuweiwei is the one who has truly attained the Dao, Kuangqu comes close, while both you and I remain far from it. The truly wise do not speak carelessly—those who talk much understand little. Thus, the sage practices "teaching without words." The Dao cannot be sought through deliberate effort, De (Virtue) cannot be achieved through striving, humaneness can be practiced artificially, righteousness will always have flaws, and ritual easily devolves into pretense.

The text reveals the degeneration of virtue: When the Dao is lost, people speak of De; when De is lost, they speak of humaneness; when humaneness is lost, they speak of righteousness; and when righteousness is lost, they turn to ritual. Ritual may appear refined, but it marks the beginning of chaos. Cultivating the Dao requires continually reducing artificial effort until reaching the state of Wuwei (non-action), where one can then accomplish all things effortlessly. Yet ordinary people chase external things, making it difficult to return to the source—only the enlightened "great person" can achieve this.

Finally, the text clarifies the nature of life and death: Life is the continuation of death, and death is the beginning of life—they form an endless cycle. Human existence is simply the gathering and dispersal of Qi (vital energy): when Qi gathers, there is life; when it scatters, there is death. Since life and death follow each other, why worry? All things are fundamentally one. People praise what is miraculous and despise what is foul, yet these constantly transform into each other—the foul and rotten can become miraculous again, just as the miraculous can return to decay.

爲臭腐臭腐復化爲神奇神奇復化爲臭腐 故曰通天下一氣耳聖人故貴一知謂黄帝 曰吾問無爲謂無爲謂不應非不我應不知 應我也吾問狂屈狂屈中欲告我而不我告 非不我告中欲告而忘之也今予問乎若若 知之奚故不近黄帝曰彼其眞是也以其不 知也此其似之也以其忘之也予與若終不 近也以其知之也狂屈聞之以黄帝爲知言 天地有大美而不言四時有明法而不議萬 物有成理而不說聖人者原天地之美而達 萬物之理是故至人無爲大聖不作觀於天 地之謂也今彼神明至精與彼百化物已死 生方圓莫知其根也扁(與翩/同)然而萬物自古 以固存六合爲目未離其内秋豪爲小待之 成體天下莫不沈浮終身不故陰陽四時運 行各得其序惛然若亡而存油然不形而神 萬物畜(勑六/反)而不知此之謂本根可以觀於 天矣  神明至精人心也今人不能如聖人之觀  天乃以其神明至精者與彼百般變化故  物之死生方員不能知其本根然逝者固  翩然莫返矣而萬物之理自古未嘗不存  人自不覺耳此道無内外無小大天下莫  不囿於沈浮消長之中常新而不故四時  之序亦運行而不息能惛然若亡而存油  然不形而神萬物並蓄而不知則能知其  本根而可以觀天矣
Interpretation

What is foul and rotten can transform into the miraculous, and the miraculous can revert to foulness and decay. Thus we see that all under heaven is but the transformation of a single Qi (the fundamental energy constituting all things). For this reason, the sages particularly valued the principle of "Oneness."

The Yellow Emperor once said: "I questioned Wuweiwei (an enlightened master), but he gave me no answer—not because he wouldn't, but because he didn't know how. Then I asked Kuang Qu (another practitioner), who intended to explain but suddenly forgot what to say. Now I ask you—since you know this principle, why can't you truly comprehend it?" The Emperor concluded: "Wuweiwei was truly one with the Dao because he didn't even know what the 'Dao' was; Kuang Qu was close to enlightenment because he forgot his words; while you and I ultimately fail to understand precisely because we think we know."

Hearing this, Kuang Qu acknowledged the Yellow Emperor's wisdom. Between heaven and earth exists supreme beauty that never speaks; the four seasons follow clear rhythms yet offer no explanations; all things grow by fixed principles yet provide no clarifications. The sages observe heaven and earth's beauty to comprehend the patterns of all existence. Thus the perfected person (the highest adept) practices Wuwei (non-action), and the great sage never forces interference—this is the true method of observing heaven and earth.

Nowadays, though the human heart-mind (Shen, consciousness and spirit) is inherently subtle, it becomes entangled in myriad transformations, making people unable to grasp the fundamental reasons behind life and death, or the shifts between square and round. What passes is like a bird flying never to return, yet the principles governing all things have existed since antiquity—only people remain unaware. This Dao makes no distinction between inner and outer, great and small. All things under heaven rise and fall in ceaseless cycles, eternally renewed without growing stale. The four seasons revolve endlessly—vague yet real, formless yet mysteriously potent. All things grow within it unknowingly—this is the fundamental principle. Only by understanding this can one truly observe and comprehend heavenly Dao.

The human heart-mind can potentially reach the divine clarity of supreme essence, but ordinary people cannot emulate the sages' observation of heavenly Dao. Instead, they sink their Shen into endless transformations, thus failing to recognize the fundamental patterns governing all creation.

齧缺問道乎被衣被衣曰若正汝形一汝視 天和將至攝汝知汝度神將來舍德將爲 汝美道將爲汝居汝瞳焉如新生之犢而無 求其故言未卒齧缺睡寐被衣大悦行歌而 去之曰形若槁骸心若死灰眞其實知不以 故自持媒媒(音/昧)晦晦無心而不可與謀彼何 人哉 舜問乎丞曰道可得而有乎曰汝身非汝有 也汝何得有夫道舜曰吾身非吾有也孰有 之哉曰是天地之委形也生非汝有是天地 之委和也性命非汝有是天地之委順也孫 子非汝有是天地之委蛻也故行不知所往 處不知所持食不知所味天地之疆陽氣也 又胡可得而有邪 孔子問於老聃曰今日晏閒(音宴/閑)敢問至道 老聃曰汝齋戒疏瀹而精神掊擊而知夫道 窅然難言哉將爲汝言其崖略夫昭昭生於 㝠㝠有倫生於無形精神生於道形本生於 精而萬物以形相生故九竅者胎生八竅者 卵生其來無迹其往無崖無門無房四達之 皇皇也邀於此者四枝彊思慮恂達耳目聰 明其用心不勞其應物無方天不得不高地 不得不廣日月不得不行萬物不得不昌此 其道與且夫搏之不必知辯之不必慧聖人 以斷之矣若夫益之而不加益損之而不加 損者聖人之所保也淵淵乎其若海魏魏(巍/同) 乎其終則復始也運量萬物而不匱則君子
Interpretation

Nie Que (a Daoist figure) asked Bei Yi (another Daoist figure) about the methods of the Dao. Bei Yi replied: "Straighten your physical form, focus your gaze, and natural harmony will descend upon you. Restrain your intellectual cleverness, and your spirit will come to dwell within. De (Virtue) will become your radiance, and the Dao will become your abode. Be as innocent and guileless as a newborn calf, asking no questions about reasons." Before he could finish speaking, Nie Que had already fallen asleep. Delighted, Bei Yi departed singing: "A body like withered bones, a mind like cold ashes—this is the true state of comprehending the Dao. Not clinging to preconceptions, muddled and without cunning—how rare are such people!"

Emperor Shun asked Cheng (an ancient sage): "Can the Dao be obtained and possessed?" Cheng replied: "Even your own body does not belong to you—how could you possess the Dao?" Shun pressed further: "Then to whom does my body belong?" Cheng explained: "It is merely a form temporarily entrusted to you by Heaven and Earth. Your life is not your own—it is the harmonious Qi bestowed by Heaven and Earth. Your nature and destiny are not your own—they are the patterns arranged by Heaven and Earth. Even your descendants are not your own—they are the continuance of Heaven and Earth's transformations. Thus, when you walk, you know not where you go; when you dwell, you know not what you hold; when you eat, you know not the flavors. All these are the flowing changes of Yin and Yang within Heaven and Earth—how could they be possessed by any individual?"

Confucius asked Laozi about the supreme Dao. Laozi said: "First purify yourself through fasting, unblock your spirit, and shatter your preconceptions. The Dao is profound and beyond words! I can only give you a general outline: Light is born from darkness, form arises from formlessness, spirit originates from the Dao, and the physical body is rooted in Jing (essence). All things give birth through forms: those with nine orifices (mammals) are born from wombs, those with eight orifices (oviparous creatures) are born from eggs. The Dao comes without shadow and departs without trace—it has no gate, no dwelling, yet extends everywhere in vast openness. Those who accord with the Dao have strong limbs, clear thinking, sharp hearing and vision, and use their minds effortlessly, responding to all things without rigidity. Heaven cannot but be high, Earth cannot but be broad, the sun and moon cannot but move, and all things cannot but flourish—this is the Dao! As for those who fight without needing knowledge, or debate without needing wisdom—the sages long ago saw through this truth. That which neither increases when added to nor diminishes when taken from—this is the treasure the sages cherish. Deep as the ocean, towering as mountains, cycling endlessly without cease—the Dao bears all things without exhaustion. This is the principle the noble person emulates."

之道彼其外與萬物皆往資焉而不匱此其 道與中國有人焉非陰非陽處於天地之間 直且爲人將反於宗自本觀之生者喑(音/蔭)醷 (音/倚)物也雖有壽夭相去幾何須臾之說也奚 足以爲堯桀之是非  言人不必搏之辯之聖人已有一定之說  矣聖人之說不可損益也淵淵乎其若海  魏魏乎其終則復始兩句所以贊聖人之  道運量萬物而不匱則君子之道彼其外  與言有心於運量萬物者皆務外也萬物  皆往資焉而不匱此其道也與言不足爲  道也中國有人超出陰陽之外其處於天  地之間但聊且爲人耳將反於其宗宗者  太虚也自大虚觀之人之生者如喑醷之  物耳禮記注醷梅漿也喑乆醖之也漿雖  乆喑能得幾時日多者爲壽日少者爲夭  故凡世人所搏辯者皆須臾之說也奚足  以爲堯桀之是非 果蓏有理倫雖難所以相齒聖人遭之而 不違過之而不守調而應之德也偶而應之 道也帝之所興王之所起也  果蓏雖微物而枝條花實亦有倫理君臣  父子夫婦朋友之倫雖若煩難亦所以相  齒序聖人處人倫之間遇之而不違未嘗  廢之過之而不守未嘗留戀焉與之調和  而應之所以爲德與之並偶而應之所以  爲道帝王興起皆不外是也 人生天地之間若白駒之過卻(隙/同)忽焉而已
Interpretation

The Dao (the Way), as the cosmic origin, exists beyond all things yet ceaselessly nourishes them without depletion. In the Central Plains, there exists a reality that transcends the dual energies of Yin-Yang, dwelling between heaven and earth—manifesting temporarily in human form but ultimately returning to its source (Taixu, the primordial void). From the perspective of ultimate origin, life resembles fermented plum mash (an ancient brewing agent): though some exist longer than others, all are ephemeral in essence. The world's endless debates over the righteousness of sage-king Yao versus tyrant Jie are but fleeting quarrels before eternity, utterly unworthy of contention.

The sages long ago established immutable truths—wisdom as vast as the ocean, as lofty as mountains, cycling endlessly without terminus. Those who deliberately seek to dominate all things are merely chasing external appearances. The true Dao nourishes effortlessly and spontaneously. Those beings who transcend Yin-Yang, temporarily dwelling in the human realm, will ultimately return to the realm of Taixu. From the cosmic view, life is like transient ferment; the difference between long and short lifespans is insignificant.

Even small melons and fruits (gualuo) follow their inherent patterns of growth, and human relations, however complex, have their natural order. The sage's approach to human relationships is this: to comply without resistance (as with father-son or ruler-subject bonds), to experience without attachment. Harmonious response is "De" (Virtue), and natural accord is "Dao." The principles by which emperors throughout history governed the world all stem from this.

Human life between heaven and earth is as brief as sunlight flashing through a crack. Note: "White steed" (baiju) symbolizes sunlight, and "crack" (xi) represents a wall's fissure—a metaphor for life's fleeting passage.

注然勃然莫不出焉油然漻然莫不入焉已 化而生又化而死生物哀之人類悲之解其 天弢墮(音/隳)其天𧙍紛乎宛乎魂魄將往乃身 從之乃大歸乎不形之形形之不形是人之 所同知也非將至之所務也此衆人之所同 論也彼至則不論論則不至明見無值辯不 若默道不可聞聞不若塞此之謂大得  紛亂宛轉形容解弢墮𧙍之貌不形之形  無而生也形之不形化而無也值遇也大  道之要明見者不能值之故辯不如默 東郭子問於莊子曰所謂道惡乎在莊子曰 無所不在東郭子曰期而後可莊子曰在螻 蟻曰何其下邪曰在稊稗曰何其愈下邪曰 在瓦甓曰何其愈甚邪曰在屎溺東郭子不 應莊子曰夫子之問也固不及質正獲之問 於監市履狶也愈下愈況  期指定言之也質本也所問泛然不及於  本故吾對之如此正獲者儀禮飲射之禮  有司正司獲監市履狶者市監買賣以足  履豕而知其斤兩者也司正司獲之與監  市履狶雖異職而同爲飲射之事故問之  也履狶者從豕之上體而履至下體每下  愈比況而肥瘠見矣俗以兩髀齊爲豕肥  是也所言愈下愈甚比況觀之而道可見  矣 汝唯莫必無乎逃物至道若是大言亦然周 徧咸三者異名同實其指一也嘗相與遊乎 無何有之宫同合而論無所終窮乎嘗相與
Interpretation

All things flourish and nothing fails to appear; they naturally decline and nothing fails to return. Life emerges from transformation, and in transformation it meets death. Creatures grieve this, and humans lament it. But casting off nature's bindings (天弢 refers to natural constraints) and shedding nature's fetters (天𧙍 refers to natural shackles), amidst the tangled twists of existence, the spirit prepares to depart as the body follows in dissolution—this is the ultimate homecoming. From formlessness to form, and from form back to formlessness—this is what ordinary people understand, yet it is not what Dao practitioners seek. Such matters are commonly discussed by the multitude, but those who have attained the Dao do not debate them, for those who debate have not attained it. Seeing clearly yet failing to encounter the true Dao—better silence than argument. The Dao cannot be heard with ears—better to close the senses than to listen, for this is genuine realization.

(Explanation: This passage describes the natural cycle of life and death, noting that attachment to form is ordinary understanding, while true Dao cultivators transcend debates over form to reach a state where self and objects are both forgotten.)

Dongguozi asked Zhuangzi, "Where exactly is this Dao you speak of?" Zhuangzi replied, "There's nowhere it isn't." Pressed to be specific, Zhuangzi said, "It's in the ants." Dongguozi exclaimed, "How so lowly?" Zhuangzi continued, "It's in the weeds." Dongguozi grew more puzzled: "Even baser?" Zhuangzi added, "It's in tiles and bricks." Dongguozi protested, "This gets worse and worse!" Finally, Zhuangzi said, "It's in piss and dung." Dongguozi fell silent.

Zhuangzi explained: "Your question never touched the essence. Like the market inspector who steps on a pig to gauge its fatness (监市履狶 was an ancient method to estimate a pig's weight), the lower he presses, the truer his measure. The humbler the things I name, the more they reveal the Dao's omnipresence."

(Explanation: Using mundane examples to illustrate the Dao's universality—the more seemingly lowly the thing, the more it manifests the Dao's pervasive nature.)

You needn't cling to notions like "the Dao certainly isn't there"—the great Dao embraces all without exception. Terms like "all-encompassing," "pervasive," and "universal" differ in name but share the same substance: the Dao's boundlessness. Let us wander together in the palace of nothingness (无何有之宫 symbolizes the realm of Dao), discussing all things as one, and thus comprehend the Dao's inexhaustibility.

無爲乎澹而靜乎漠而清乎調而間(音/閑)乎寥 已吾志無往焉而不知其所至去而來不知 其所止吾已往來焉而不知其所終仿徨乎 馮(皮冰/反)閎大知入焉而不知其所窮  莫不然也必必然也即論語無適也無莫  也之義上文言道無不在故此云汝唯或  莫必皆順物之自然不與物相違所謂至  道如此而已所謂大言亦然周徧咸三言  者異名同實其指則一可以包括衆事如  是則皆是非則皆非自無爭矣嘗試也嘗  相與遊乎無何有之宫同合而論無所終  窮乎作一連讀寥虚也寥已吾志虚吾心  也雖或有往只如無往而不知其所至之  地雖去而來不知其所止之地雖已經往  來亦不知曾往來故曰不知其所終馮閎  虚無之門也天問馮翼惟像何以識之淮  南子天地未形馮馮翼翼彷徨乎馮閎者  徜徉乎虚無之門也大知之人直入此門  而莫知其所極 物物者與物無際而物有際者所謂物際也 不際之際際之不際者也謂盈虚衰殺彼爲 盈虚非盈虚彼爲衰殺非衰殺彼爲本末非 本末彼爲積散非積散  上文申言不知其終窮之意物物上物字  人物之以名枚數之也所謂者衆所謂也  下謂字同彼亦指所謂之彼也以名數物  者無窮盡與之無涯際其有涯際者乃衆  之謂物際也其實無際而彼謂之際故云
Interpretation

This passage elucidates the Daoist concept of "Wuwei (non-action) and naturalness." The core idea conveys that the true Dao (the Way, cosmic origin) exists in a state of empty stillness and non-interference, omnipresent yet formless.

To attain such a state, practitioners must cultivate inner emptiness and tranquility, undisturbed by external influences. Though appearing to engage in action, they remain as if acting without action; though coming and going, their ultimate destination remains unknowable. It resembles lingering before the gate of emptiness—even the wisest who enter cannot find its end.

The text mentions how the "creator of things" (the Dao that generates all beings) has no boundaries with concrete phenomena, yet distinctions exist among phenomena themselves. These so-called boundaries are artificially constructed, for the Dao fundamentally transcends such divisions. Concepts like fullness and emptiness, prosperity and decline, root and branch, gathering and dispersion—these apparent opposites are human-made distinctions, nonexistent within the Dao itself.

Using the metaphor of the "Palace of Nothingness" (a dwelling devoid of all things), the author illustrates that true wisdom lies in recognizing the inherent nondifferentiation of all phenomena, flowing with nature rather than forcing outcomes. Only then can one achieve the state of "universal inclusiveness," dissolving all disputes of right and wrong.

 不際之際彼所謂際其實無際故云際之  不際者也 妸荷甘與神農同學於老龍吉神農隱几闔 户晝瞑(音/眠)妸荷甘日中奓(籟者/反)户而入曰老 龍死矣神農隱几擁杖而起嚗(音/剥)然放杖而 笑曰天知予僻陋慢訑(音移訑訑/自得歟)故棄予而 死己矣夫(句)予無所發子之狂言而死矣夫 (句)弇堈(人/名)弔句聞之(句)曰夫體道者天下之 君子所繫焉今於道秋毫之端萬分未得處 一焉而猶知藏其狂言而死又況夫體道者 乎視之無形聽之無聲於人之論者謂之㝠 㝠所以論道而非道也  奓户推開户嚗然放杖聲天指老龍吉予  無所發予之狂言而死矣夫者言我所發  言多是狂妄無知老龍吉在則我發問可  以質正今老龍吉死則我無所發我之狂  言而亦終於泯没以死矣今於道秋毫之  末萬分未得處一焉指神農也藏其狂言  即無所發也於人之論者謂之冥冥人之  論道者以其無形無聲而但謂之冥冥也 於是泰清問乎無窮曰子知道乎無窮曰吾 不知又問乎無爲無爲曰吾知道曰子之知 道亦有數乎曰有曰其數若何無爲曰吾知 道之可以貴可以賤可以約可以散此吾所 以知道之數也泰清以之言也問乎無始曰 若是則無窮之弗知與無爲之知孰是而孰
Interpretation

This passage recounts a dialogue between several Daoist practitioners, revealing the profound nature of the Dao (the Way).

Ehegan and Shennong studied the Dao together under the guidance of Old Dragon Ji. One noon, Ehegan pushed open the door and announced Old Dragon Ji's passing. Shennong, who had been resting with closed eyes while leaning on a table, rose with his staff upon hearing the news. Suddenly dropping the staff, he laughed and said: "Heaven knows my shallowness and arrogance, and thus has made my teacher abandon me. Now I can no longer find anyone to consult."

Yangang, upon hearing this, remarked: "Those who truly comprehend the Great Dao are revered by all noble-minded people. Shennong hasn't grasped even one ten-thousandth of the Dao, yet he knows to restrain his presumptuous words—how much more so for those who have truly attained the Dao! The Dao cannot be seen or heard. What people describe as 'the obscure and mysterious' (mingming) are merely attempts to characterize it, not the Dao itself."

Subsequently, Taiqing sought understanding of the Dao from both Wuqiong (the Boundless) and Wuwei (Non-action). Wuqiong replied that he didn't know what the Dao was, while Wuwei claimed he understood it. Wuwei explained: "I know the Dao can be noble or humble, can concentrate or disperse—this is my understanding of it." Taiqing then consulted Wushi (the Beginningless): "Between Wuqiong's 'not knowing' and Wuwei's 'knowing,' which is correct?"

This dialogue demonstrates the Daoist understanding of the Dao: the true Dao transcends verbal description—it cannot be said to be fully known, nor fully unknown. Practitioners must move beyond superficial cognition to attain higher levels of realization.

非乎無始曰不知深矣知之淺矣弗知内矣 知之外矣於是泰清中而歎曰弗知乃知乎 知乃不知乎孰知不知之知無始曰道不可 聞聞而非也道不可見見而非也道不可言 言而非也知形形之不形乎道不當名無始 曰有問道而應之者不知道也雖問道者亦 未聞道道無問問無應無問問之是問窮也 無應應之是無内也以無内待問窮若是者 外不觀乎宇宙内不知乎太初是以不過乎 崑崙不遊乎太虚 光曜問乎無有曰夫子有乎其無有乎光曜 不得問而孰視其狀貌窅然空然終日視之 而不見聽之而不聞搏之而不得也光曜曰 至矣其孰能至此乎子能有無矣而未能無 無也及爲無有矣何從至此哉大馬之捶鉤 者年八十矣而不失毫芒大馬曰子巧與有 道與曰臣有守也臣之年二十而好捶鉤於 物無視也非鉤無察也是用之者假不用者 也以長得其用而況乎無不用者乎物孰不 資焉  大馬者大司馬也捶鉤者煆帶鉤之工 冉求問於仲尼曰未有天地可知邪仲尼曰 可古猶今也冉求失問而退明日復見曰昔 者吾問未有天地可知乎夫子曰可古猶今 也昔日吾昭然今日吾昧然敢問何謂也仲 尼曰昔之昭然也神者先受之今之昧然也 且又爲不神者求邪無古無今無始無終未
Interpretation

This passage comes from the Nanhua Zhenjing (the Zhuangzi), primarily discussing the unknowable nature of the Dao and the limitations of human cognition. Here is a modern interpretation:

Taiqing (a fictional character) sighs and says: Not knowing is true knowledge, while believing one knows is shallow understanding. The true Dao cannot be perceived through the senses—listening with ears, seeing with eyes, or describing with words cannot grasp the Dao. Because the Dao has no concrete form, it transcends names and concepts. If someone claims to be able to explain the Dao, that very claim proves they do not understand it. The Dao itself neither requires questioning nor can it be answered. Forcing questions is like shouting into emptiness, and forced answers are nothing but hollow words. Such people neither perceive the external universe clearly nor comprehend the internal source of being, as if trapped on Mount Kunlun (a sacred Daoist mountain) and unable to roam the Great Void (cosmic origin).

The passage then uses a dialogue between Guangyao (personified light) and "Nothingness" to illustrate: Guangyao asks whether "Nothingness" exists, only to realize that it cannot be seen, heard, or touched. This leads to the understanding that the highest state transcends the distinction between "being" and "non-being." The story of the "Grand Marshal" (a high-ranking Chu official) tells of an old craftsman who, even at eighty, could make belt hooks with flawless precision. His secret lay in twenty years of unwavering focus on his craft, to the point where nothing else existed in his vision. This demonstrates that a state of total absorption and self-forgetfulness aligns with the Dao.

Finally, Ran Qiu and Confucius discuss the nature of time and space: Confucius states that "past and present are no different," as time itself has no beginning or end. Whether one feels clarity or confusion depends on whether one uses Shen (transcendent wisdom) or ordinary thinking to comprehend. The true Dao transcends past and present, beginning and end, just as an unborn child need not inquire about family history—such questions are ultimately superfluous.

有子孫而有子孫可乎冉求未對仲尼曰己 矣未應矣不以生生死不以死死生死生有 待邪皆有所一體有先天地生者物邪物物 者非物物出不得先物也猶其有物也無己 聖人之愛人也終無己者亦乃取於是者  神者人心之神明昔之昭然者此心之神  先領受之今之昩然者此心忽然蒙蔽又  有不神處也天地本無古今無始終汝問  未有天地之先猶問人未有子孫而有子  孫可乎已矣未應矣者言冉求之未應可  以已矣不須應矣我爲汝言之生者自生  不是以生生其死死者自死不是以死死  其生生死本無所待只是生則一體同生  死則一體同死豈有先天地而生之物邪  凡羣然迸出而謂之物物者本非物也未  生以前此身在何處物之出不得有在物  之先者但如有物以生之耳如有物以生  之則生生之道自無窮已聖人之愛人終  無已者亦有取於生生不息之義也 顔淵問乎仲尼曰回嘗聞諸夫子曰無有所 將無有所迎回敢問其遊仲尼曰古之人外 化而内不化今之人内化而外不化與物化 者一不化者也安化安不化安與之相靡(讀/作) (磨)必與之莫多狶韋氏之囿黄帝之圃有虞 氏之宫湯武之室君子之人若儒墨者師故 以是非相𩐎也而況今之人乎聖人處物不 傷物不傷物者物亦不能傷也唯無所傷者
Interpretation

This dialogue explores profound questions about life, death, and the origins of heaven and earth. Confucius (Zhongni) tells his student Ran Qiu during their discussion: Life arises naturally, not because some force deliberately creates it; death occurs spontaneously, not because some power intentionally terminates it. Life and death are inherently natural phenomena, requiring no dependence on external conditions. All things universally experience this cycle of life and death—how could anything exist prior to heaven and earth?

The very concept of "things" fundamentally didn't exist before the myriad creatures came into being. Asking "what existed before heaven and earth formed" is as illogical as asking "how could descendants exist before a person has children." Confucius advises Ran Qiu to cease such inquiries, for life continues naturally and death arrives spontaneously—this constitutes the eternal, unchanging principle. The sage's ceaseless compassion for humanity precisely emulates this inexhaustible cosmic law of perpetual generation.

Later, Yan Yuan (Hui) asks Confucius about the meaning of "having nothing to send forth, nothing to welcome." Confucius explains: Ancient sages outwardly adapted to transformations while maintaining inner constancy, whereas modern people harbor inner turmoil while clinging to external rigidity. Those who truly attain the Dao (the Way) can transform alongside all things while preserving their unchanging intrinsic nature. Like the gardens of ancient sage-kings such as Xiwei, the orchards of the Yellow Emperor, the palaces of Emperor Shun, or the dwellings of Tang and Wu of Zhou—the noble person should emulate Confucian and Mohist masters by using standards of right and wrong to refine themselves. The sage neither harms the myriad creatures nor is harmed by them; only those who completely refrain from harming others can reach this state.

The phrase "those who transform with things remain unified in their unchanging nature" describes a crucial cultivation state—while outwardly adapting to external changes, one perpetually maintains the constancy of inner true nature. "Mutual refinement" (xiangmi) refers to tempering one's mind through interaction with the external world.

爲能與人相將迎  外化而内不化者應物而心不與之俱内  化而外不化者心無定而爲事物所撑觸  也與物化者外化也一不化者内不化也  安者何也何所謂化何所謂不化何能與  之相磨必爲其所銷鑠而所存無幾矣自  狶韋黄帝有虞湯武至於儒墨家元以是  非辯論相𩐎粉何況今之人乎相𩐎則甚  於相磨矣圃則狹於囿室則深於堂愈趍  愈甚也傷字正與磨字𩐎字相照 山林與臯壤與使我欣欣然而樂與樂未畢 也哀又繼之哀樂之來吾不能禦其去弗能 止悲夫世人直謂物逆旅耳夫知遇而不知 所不遇知能能而不能所不能無知無能者 固人之所不免也夫務免乎人之所不免者 豈不亦悲哉至言去言至爲去爲齊知之 所知則淺矣
Interpretation

This passage elucidates the Daoist wisdom of "external transformation with internal non-transformation." It means one's outward appearance may conform to worldly conventions (external transformation), while maintaining inner detachment (internal non-transformation). If reversed—when the mind wavers yet feigns composure (internal transformation with external non-transformation)—one becomes enslaved by external things.

True masters achieve harmony with the transformations of all things (becoming one with transformations), while steadfastly preserving their fundamental core (the One that never transforms). The text rhetorically asks: What constitutes stability? What defines change? What represents perseverance? Those who constantly clash with external forces (grinding against them) will inevitably be worn down. From ancient sovereigns like Xiwei and the Yellow Emperor (Huangdi), through sage-kings like Shun, Tang, and Wu, down to Confucians and Mohists—all exhausted themselves in debates over right and wrong (mutual attrition). Modern people fare even worse.

The author employs metaphors: A garden appears narrower than imperial parks, an inner chamber seems deeper than a grand hall—the more forcefully one pursues something, the deeper one sinks. The character "wound" (shang) perfectly mirrors the attritional states of "grinding" and "mutual wearing."

The scenery of mountains and wilderness brings joy, yet before this joy concludes, sorrow follows unbidden. Human emotions come and go beyond our control—people are but transient guests dwelling in the material world (inns of things). Humans cling stubbornly to what they encounter, while neglecting the unseen; they flaunt their capabilities, yet evade their limitations. But isn't ignorance and incapacity the fundamental human condition? Isn't it tragic to forcibly avoid these unavoidable imperfections?

The highest discourse transcends language (ultimate discourse abandons words), the highest action is non-action (ultimate action abandons striving). Attempting to standardize all knowledge (equalizing wisdom) ironically leads to superficiality.

南華眞經循本卷之二十一

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